I have really bad feeling about that standoff in Oregon

Update: WorldNetDaily has a good background on this story. Regardless of how one feels about all that; this is not the way to solve this issue, at all.

Update #2: Taylor Millard over at Hotair.com offers his thoughts on the situtation

I hate to sound like a pessimist or even an Eeyore, but I have a really horrible, sinking feeling about that standoff up in Oregon.  I’ve seen this before, back in the 1980’s and 1990’s and it didn’t end pretty. I hope cooler heads prevail and nothing happens. However, if I know these people; something bad is going to happen. 🙁

The story via OregonLive.com:

Update at 9:15 p.m.: Statement from Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward: “After the peaceful rally was completed today, a group of outside militants drove to the Malheur Wildlife Refuge, where they seized and occupied the refuge headquarters. A collective effort from multiple agencies is currently working on a solution. For the time being please stay away from that area. More information will be provided as it becomes available. Please maintain a peaceful and united front and allow us to work through this situation.”

The Bundy family of Nevada joined with hard-core militiamen Saturday to take over the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, vowing to occupy the remote federal outpost 30 miles southeast of Burns for years.

The occupation came shortly after an estimated 300 marchers — militia and local citizens both — paraded through Burns to protest the prosecution of two Harney County ranchers, Dwight Hammond Jr. and Steven Hammond, who are to report to prison on Monday.

Among the occupiers is Ammon Bundy, son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, and two of his brothers. Militia members at the refuge claimed they had as many as 100 supporters with them. The refuge, federal property managed by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, was closed and unoccupied for the holiday weekend.

In phone interviews from inside the occupied building Saturday night, Ammon Bundy and his brother, Ryan Bundy, said they are not looking to hurt anyone. But they would not rule out violence if police tried to remove them, they said.

“The facility has been the tool to do all the tyranny that has been placed upon the Hammonds,” Ammon Bundy said.

“We’re planning on staying here for years, absolutely,” he added. “This is not a decision we’ve made at the last minute.”

The problem is that the Hammond family says that they did not even invite these people and they really do not even support them at all. This is why I agree with Jazz Shaw over at HotAir.com:

This is crazy. (And I know that’s not going to sit well with those regularly spoiling for a fight with the feds.) Taking armed troops in to seize control of a federal building and essentially daring the government to come get you is pretty much the course of last resort. This is the fight you choose to draw the line in the sand over? If the Hammonds aren’t seeking protection and are planning to continue their appeal through the normal legal channels, this armed insurrection isn’t being done for their benefit. If you’re doing it to try to stop the feds from exercising control over a wildlife refuge, well… nope. Sorry. Still crazy.

Harness all of that energy and enthusiasm into getting a legal team to begin challenging the federal government in court over it. It will be a long, hard slog, but you’ll garner a tremendous amount of support around the nation, particularly among conservatives and libertarians. Taking up arms over this will produce just the opposite result. It’s time to get the troops out of the building before somebody gets hurt and this turns into a literally bloody debacle.

I also happen to agree with John Hawkins:

Intelligent people can differ over whether the sentences are fair and of course, a peaceful protest is always fine. However, taking over a government building and trying to provoke a violent government response is so irresponsible that it borders on insane. It would be nice if the people involved came to their senses and called this whole thing off before anyone gets hurt, but common sense doesn’t seem so common in the age of Obama.

I could not agree more. This is not going to end good. When the Government shows up Monday, this is not going to end well and it is going to nothing for the liberty movement, at all. It is only going to paint anyone, who believes in the Constitution, in small Government, and in personal Liberty as far right-wing nut jobs.

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Clive Bundy’s Son Defends his Dad, “My Dad is not a racist”

I was going to add this to my Clive Bundy posting, but I thought it needed it’s own blog entry. It seems that Mr. Bundy’s son is speaking out.

Via WorldNetDaily.com:

A comment by embattled Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy about blacks and slavery was taken out of context by the New York Times, according to Bundy’s son, Ammon Bundy, who told WND in an interview Thursday his father was trying to reach out to the black and Hispanic communities.

“They took what they wanted. They knew when they were there his comments were not racist. He wasn’t able to completely articulate,” Ammon Bundy told WND. “That’s just my dad. He is a very principled person.”

The Times, in a report by Adam Nagourney, said Cliven Bundy, in a daily meeting Saturday with reporters and photographers covering his case, made the comments that critics are calling racist.

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” Nagourney quoted Bundy saying.

Bundy was recalling public housing projects in North Las Vegas.

“And in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids – and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch – they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do? They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

Ammon Bundy told WND: “I was there standing right beside my father when he made those comments. He was reaching out to the black community.”

He explained his father was commenting on the fact that while blacks were “in slavery on plantations, now because of the welfare system, they continue to be in slavery.”

“He desires the black community to have freedom,” Ammon Bundy said.

“Growing up around him, and being beside him, I never once heard him say anything negative about any race,” Ammon Bundy said. “I wish I could say that about everyone else I’ve been around. The black community, the white community, they joke back and forth. My father’s never lowered himself.”

Of course, “his message was taken out of context,” he said.

The point was that the government “has kept them oppressed,” Ammon Bundy said. “They’ve never been given a situation to be able to thrive, get themselves out of slavery.”

Which is what I figured, the liberal media was lying in wait for this man to say something that would offend others and they got their story. Kudos who Mr. Bundy’s son for standing up for his daddy.

 

Clive Bundy in the crosshairs…..for telling the truth

Clive Bundy, whom I have written about before, let some of that politically incorrect truth slip; and of course, the New York Times was there to catch it.

Quoting Mr. Bundy:

He said he would continue holding a daily news conference; on Saturday, it drew one reporter and one photographer, so Mr. Bundy used the time to officiate at what was in effect a town meeting with supporters, discussing, in a long, loping discourse, the prevalence of abortion, the abuses of welfare and his views on race.

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

…..and of course, the liberal Blogosphere; and one guy, who claims to be a Conservative were all over it. Now, was Bundy’s remarks offensive? Heck no! Quite frankly, considering what happened to my cousin in 1994 and what happened to me recently in Indianapolis; not to mention how some of them like to treat white people —-  I quite honestly sometimes wonder if we wouldn’t have been better off leaving those bastards in them freaking cotton fields!

Just my opinion.

Now, here’s the roundup of the idiot liberals and that one pearl clutching, so-called “Conservative” who pounced on Bundy’s comments: Talking Points MemoThe Raw StoryTruthRevolt.org“The Lid”The Reality-Based CommunityThe Daily Banter and Balloon Juice

Update: To their credit, NewsBusters is reporting on the hypocrisy of MSDNC’s MSNBC’s so-called “lone conservative.”

Update #2: HotAir.com does the pile on too. Whatever happened to telling the truth? 🙄

Update #3: This topic is now a major memeorandum thread. I think that this right here, along with the fact that my blog’s stats are up a bit; proves to even the most casual of observer, that freedom of speech simply does not exist in this Country any longer. Oh, you can say what you want; but if it does not fit into the guidelines of the politically correct establishment; you will maligned, slandered and in Clive Bundy’s case, your livelihood destroyed. The Government could not bring Mr. Bundy down. But the PC police darn sure will. So, to the so-called ‘conservatives” who are running from Bundy; pat yourselves on the back, you just handed a victory to the Marxist left, they got another scalp. 😡

Update #4Kevin D. Williamson…. God Bless Him for speaking the truth, just like I did — albeit in a much nicer form. 😉

Update #5: Clive Bundy’s son defends his Dad’s good name. “My Dad is not a racist.” I doubt it would be enough; but kudos to Mr. Bundy’s son for defending his daddy.

Update #6: and of course, Fox News resident Bush loving Republican jumps on the bandwagon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZCdLWrV43Q

I just wonder how Sean Hannity feels about black on white crime? 🙄

Video: Tucker Carlson speaks the truth about the Clive Bundy situation

Yes, I was following it yesterday on twitter. I was worried sick that this situation was going to get very ugly. However, I did read the Fox News report and it seems that Clive Bundy was breaking the law.

Here’s Tucker Carlson saying exactly what I was thinking myself: (Via The Right Scoop)

Tucker is absolutely correct. If he is using public land, he has to pay; if he does not like that, he should sell his current ranch and move somewhere, where he will have his own land to use. I, as well, do not like the law that is on the books; but Conservatives are about rule of law; and if Bundy is breaking the law, these people that showed up are enabling a law breaker.

This is why I did not want to write about this story, because it quickly became clear to me, that Bundy was simply in the wrong.