The long knives come out

Against Social Conservatives and Conservative Grassroots types, like me.

Check it out Here, Here, and here.

Also too, check out what this Colorado Jew has to say about we Conservative Christians. Let me ask you for a second; what if someone like me, decided to say that the problem with the Republican Party was controlled and financed by the Jews and that they needed to leave and started their own party? I would be derided by the Blogosphere as a anti-Semite, a bigot and a few other names that I will not print here. Funny how they can deride us and nothing ever happens; but when the tables are turned they collectively lose their minds ——- just ask Rick Sanchez. Before anyone screams, I am not being a hatemonger here, I, as a Conservative Christian, am just making a observation. One that does tick me off a bit, but I digress.

The response I have to all the idiotic nonsense at the links is this; try winning elections without us. As I have said on this blog a million times, and I will most like say it a million more, before it is over — there are three legs to the stool of Conservatism: Fiscal, Social and Foreign Policy. If any of those legs are removed, the stool collapses. You cannot have a Conservative Movement and for that matter, a Republican party without social Conservatism. This is because freedoms do not come from man, freedoms come by God; and a Party that fails to acknowledge that there is a God in Heaven and fails to champion the causes that are found in the Holy Bible is doomed to failure.

So, this whole idea, that grassroots Conservatives are somehow the reason the Republicans lost the 2012 election is a bunch of horse manure! We lost the election, because the Republican Party put in the most Elitist, moderate guy that they could find and tried running him as a true Conservative. Plus too, the man was a Mormon, and the Evangelical base of the Republican Party just does not trust Mormons, and for good reason; they are not Christians at all. I voted for Romney, because I wanted to see the Country prosper, not because I agreed with his Religion. Now, people are saying the solution is purge the party of the Christians. Nice, real nice. But, again, try winning elections without us. Because we make up a good part of your base.

I think the Republican Party establishment needs to reconsider this a whole bunch, before you start trying to throw out the people that make up your base.

Very well put!

Bill Quick says, after linking to this here:

Obama’s entire Israel policy is predicated on the notion that “Never again” is a meaningless catch-phrase, and that Israel will meekly commit suicide because he desires it to do so.

As for the American Jews who blindly support Obama through thick and thin, they disgust me. If I could, I’d deport every one of them to Israel, so they can enjoy the full brunt of their feckless actions.

via Obama’s Isreal Policy: Hope They Suicide | Daily Pundit.

Like I wrote there:

Amen. Any Jew who votes for a Political Party that can’t even agree to support them, gets what’s coming to them. Deport them back to Israel and stop funding their battles with Palestine.

These same liberal leftist Jews will be the first one’s to holler “HELP!” when the shelling starts again, and believe you me, it will, sooner or later.

Ronald Reagan knew the truth about Palestine, and this is why he started the support of Israel, by the Republican Party. Way I see it, if the leftist Jews, and those who voted for Obama want that sort of leadership in America, then let them, and that Country go it’s own way and see how far they get.

Just my opinion.

 

Alan Dershowitz : The Jewish Judas

You remember ol’ Alan Dershowitz? The man that went after Media Matters? Turns out he’s nothing more than you’re a-typical self-hating liberal Jew.

Via Tablet Magazine who observes:

If President Barack Obama is so bad on Israel, why are some of his most prominent Jewish critics planning on voting for him anyway? The list of these critics is long, but it includes former New York City Mayor Ed Koch, Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, and media tycoon Haim Saban. All three spent Obama’s first term laying into the president on his Israel policy as if it were their litmus test—and all three are now publicly supporting his re-election.

Powerhouse lawyer Alan Dershowitz criticized Obama in the Wall Street Journal for not sending a tough enough message to the Iranian regime, and he even wondered openly if the president might be remembered as “the Neville Chamberlain of the 21st century.”

However, it seems that Dershowitz was sufficiently impressed by Obama’s seriousness regarding Iran when, in a personal meeting in the Oval Office, the president assured him, “I don’t bluff.” Now the professor is stumping for the president in Florida, and yesterday he officially endorsed him in the Jerusalem Post, writing that “the case for the reelection of Barack Obama is a compelling one, based not only on his past record but on the specific policies he has proposed for the next four years.”

Ed Koch famously sent “a message to President Obama that he cannot throw Israel under the bus with impunity” last year in the New York Times. He ripped the president in 2010 when the administration made a big issue out of continued Israeli construction in East Jerusalem. “What they did is they wanted to make Israel into a pariah,” he said of the White House. “It’s outrageous in my judgment.” Koch noted that he campaigned for Obama in 2008, and pushed Jews to vote for him, arguing he would be just as solid in his support for Israel as the Republican candidate, John McCain. “I don’t think it’s true anymore,” said Koch.

But now the mayor is back in Obama’s fold, if somewhat reluctantly, “I believe that he is going to win whether I vote for him or not,” Koch told a radio interviewer in September. “So, wouldn’t it be better that he wins changing his positions?”

In 2011, Haim Saban was angry with the administration for airing its grievances with Israel in public—and he went on CNBC to say so. Now that the election is around the corner, the Israeli-American billionaire is singing a different tune. The president’s “support for Israel’s security and well-being has been rock solid,” Saban wrote in a heavily circulated New York Times op-ed last month. “What’s the case against Mr. Obama? That he hasn’t visited Israel since he was a candidate in 2008? Perhaps these critics have forgotten that George W. Bush, that great friend of Israel, didn’t visit Jerusalem until his seventh year in office,” Saban added. Somehow Saban seems to have forgotten that he is one of those critics.

So, what gives? Obama’s record on Israel, as Koch, Dershowitz, and Saban have all helpfully pointed out, is not good. The president’s strained relationship with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is unlikely to improve in a second term when Israeli-American relations will be more crucial than ever with Iran on the verge of nuclear breakout. Obama says he has Israel’s back and reminds us regularly of the trip he took to Sderot as a candidate. But who can forget that he started his first term telling a group of Jewish leaders he invited to the White House that it was important to put daylight between the United States and Israel?

Maybe former Commentary editor Norman Podhoretz was right when he wrote after the 2008 election that no matter how dire the situation for Israel, Jews simply cannot bring themselves to vote for Republicans. As much as American Jews care, or claim to care, about the Jewish state, they are not one-issue voters. They care just as much, if not more, about issues that other liberal voters care about, like abortion and gay rights. (Podhoretz had hoped for “buyer’s remorse” among Jews who supported Obama in 2008, but no such luck. The latest Gallup poll shows that Jewish voters are going for Obama over Mitt Romney 70 to 25.)

Yes, I do highly recommend that you go read the rest of that; as it is a very good piece and I really hated to have to quote so much of it; but I wanted everyone to get the gist of what is happening here.

Now, I realize that not all Jews are Zionist; yes, I understand that is a collectivist mentality and I am not much into group thought at all. However, my argument that supporting the Democratic Party would be like a Jew supporting Hitler; is one of an moral argument than anything else. It just to me, as a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant Christian American; an outsider —- does not make any kind of sense at all. Maybe I am just a weirdo or something. Because you would think that seeing all of the stuff, and I do mean ALL OF THE STUFF that the Jews have went through in the last 70 years; that every single cotton-picking Jew in America would want to be on the side that support the Jews one hundred percent and Israel one hundred percent.

This is not to say that Democrats have always been this hostile towards Israel and the Jews. Look what Roosevelt and Truman did during World War 2. The problem is, that is not the same party anymore. In fact, the Democrat Party since 2007, has gotten downright nasty towards Israel, Jews and the sort of stuff. I know, I was over there once. 

Something else too, earlier, I wrote a posting ripping William Kristol a new butthole. I also tossed Podhoretz in there, the lovely screwball. Anyhow, as much as I find their foreign policy a bit off-putting.  I give them this bit of credit; at least they actually support their own homeland. Which is more than I say about this onion headed idiot Dershowitz! Rolling Eyes I mean, why doesn’t he just say, “Yes, Palestine, Please, kill me, rape my children and steal my money and get it over with.” It is a bit of a sick way of making the point; but I am sure most of you get what I mean. 

I guess the further I go here; the less I really understand the Jewish culture; they are a diverse group; and in the case of Israel and her defense — that is a great American tragedy.

Israeli Government Kills an American

This is a sad story, and I have a few thoughts about it.

Via The NYT:

JERUSALEM — An American opened fire in the dining room of a hotel in the southern Israeli resort of Eilat on Friday and killed a kitchen worker before being shot dead by police officers, the authorities said.

Micky Rosenfeld, an Israeli police spokesman, did not identify the gunman, but described him as a tourist who “might have worked” at the hotel, the Leonardo Club.

Mr. Rosenfeld said the man grabbed a pistol from a hotel security guard around 9:30 a.m. and fired several shots in the crowded dining area before storming into the kitchen, where he killed the worker, who also was not identified by the authorities.

The gunman then “barricaded himself in the kitchen,” inspiring police fears of a hostage situation. About 10:15 a.m., antiterror police units “moved in on the suspect and he opened fire again,” Mr. Rosenfeld said.

It turned out that no hostages had been taken and no one else was injured in the incident, Mr. Rosenfeld said, making it seem more like a workplace dispute than a terrorist attack. The circumstances of the situation and the gunman’s background are still being investigated.

Mr. Rosenfeld said he did not know where in the United States the gunman was from or how long he had been in Israel and for what reasons.

Now had this been any other Country, the State Department would be demanding answers as why they felt the need to kill this man. He was, after all, an American Citizen. However, because it is Israel, I can assure you that absolutely nothing will be done about this at all.  The United States Government will NOT say or do anything at all to upset Israel. They will simply blindly accept whatever excuse, no matter how lame; that Israel hands to them. There will be no repercussions at all.

This is why I have an issue with Israel’s and America’s relationship. Because basically, the United States of America, has become Israel’s useful idiot and they can and do run roughshod over the United States, its constitution and in this case; its people. There needs to be a limit placed on what this Country can get away with; and it needs to be strictly enforced. However, when you say stuff like this; those who traffic in identity politics on the right, will attack you and call you an Anti-Semite. This typical of that crowd and it was learned from the Frankfurt marxists at Columbia University.

Let me be clear here; I do not condone the actions of this person at all. However, I believe that Israel could have take great pains to see that this man be taken alive, tried with American representation and an American council. Not treated like an damned animal. This is to be expected from a Nation; one that is not recognized by the United Nations. They are quite famous for running over our Nation and our people; this is just another instance of that.

Update: The suspect has been ID. He was a Jewish American. The victim was an Israeli Arab. I still feel the way that I do.

Related: US tourist opens fire at Eilat hotel, killing one employee
Jerusalem Post
By BEN HARTMAN, JPOST.COM STAFF American tourist working in Leonardo Club Hotel kitchen grabs security guard’s gun, opens fire; three people suffer from shock, two evacuated to hospital; Counterterrorism Unit shoots, kills gunman.
Israeli police kill American gunman in hotel shoot-outNBCNews.com
American Kills Worker at Israeli Hotel, Then Is Shot by PoliceNew York Times
US citizen opens fire at Eilat hotel, kills worker, is then shot dead by policeHaaretz
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Time to practice what I preach

After sleeping on it last night and making up this morning and thinking about it a bit. I sat and reread what I wrote last night about Israel and such.  This is when it occurred to me that me bashing The American Conservative magazine for its Anti-Israel stance, and then having myself listed as a Buchananite Conservative was hypocritical. So, I have removed any reference to being a Buchananite Conservative on this blog and on my twitter feeds.

The truth is, Pat Buchanan and a friend of his Taki Theodoracopulos, a Greek shipping magnate and a rebid anti-Semite; founded TAC in the lead up to the Iraq War.  Now while these men might have some ideas that might be noble, when it comes to economics; the truth is, they just hate Jews and because of that, in my opinion, anything else that they have to bring to the table is void.

I had changed my mind on my using the term Buchananite Conservative and was just going to use it. But, after reading what I did yesterday. I again am reminded of why I stopped using that moniker in the first place. I simply do not wish to be associated with that kind of hate; whether it be intellectualized or not —- it is still hate and it is still morally wrong and I simply do not want to be ranked among those people at all.

So, I will go find me a small Israeli flag and stick it back up there. However, I let my displeasure of some the actions of Jewish Americans be known. I will also link to this article here.

Some things in life, are just a damned complicated mess. 😡

 

Noted owner of Anti-Semite magazine explains why he hates Israel

I do not make a habit of linking to this Anti-Semite rag very often; but usually when I do it is to show just what kind of anti-Israeli bile that comes from that place. Despite the cleaning up of the image of this magazine; the same old Anti-Jewish and Anti-Israel bile continues to spew forth out that magazine.

I am, of course, referring to very poorly named “The American Conservative” which was formed by someone that I somewhat respect, except when it comes to this subject and World War II.  Anyhow, one of the founders of the magazine, a one Scott McConnell explains that while he likes Israel’s people, he detests that American actually respects Israel and its right to exist. I will quote the parts that I feel are worth noting:

Honestly, anyone who has written or spoken in public about the Israel-Palestine question    is subject to this, whether openly or behind their back. It is a stark charge, often used to insinuate anti-Semitism. But rather than being simply defensive, it might be helpful to explore one’s feelings more deeply. I’ve been to Israel twice, have met dozens of Israelis who were outstanding in terms of wisdom, vision, compassion, eloquence. There are several I know better who I’d count as among the most impressive people of my acquaintance.

Israel in a general sense has a great deal going for it: its science and medicine are first rate, and it produces many great scholars. All things being equal, it would probably rank high on my list of favorite countries — the way I feel about Switzerland perhaps or Spain — a place where I would happily spend a year, root for their teams when playing countries I don’t particularly care for, etc.

But of course all things aren’t equal. As an American, one is never asked simply to like or respect Israel as a foreign country — one is asked to more or less worship the place.

[….]

Netanyahu, a rabid ethnic nationalist who has done everything he could to squelch the Oslo peace process, and whose real views about America are aptly summarized by his quote “America is a thing you can move very easily” — a bit of candor caught off the record when Netanyahu was speaking to some right-wing Israeli settlers —  is treated quite literally like royalty on Capitol Hill and in American newsrooms. Congress grants him 30 standing ovations. David Gregory refers to him as “leader of the Jewish people.” This “special relationship,” with all that it implies about my country, its relationship to the Middle East and the entire world, and its ability to look sensibly after its own affairs, I genuinely do detest.

First off, let me point out that Scott here did something that is common among the Anti-Semite crowd; he accused America of being Israel’s puppet. UPDATE: Yes, I know; a while back I asked if Mitt Romney was going to be Israel’s puppet. This was NOT intended to be a Anti-Semitic statement. It was simply asking if Mitt Romney was going to be a Wilsonian Republican or not. Which I highly doubt to be the case. I could be wrong, but I highly doubt it. Anyone that took anything else away from what I wrote there, is either projecting or putting words in my mouth.

This is a common smear. Second of all, Scott tries to articulate a point that even though he thinks the Country of Israel and the Jewish are great; he simply has no use for the fact that Israel and America are friends and he accuses America of “worshiping” Israel. This being another Anti-Semite talking point.

Sorry Scott, you cannot have it both ways. You cannot say, “hey, I like Jewish people, it is their Country that sucks and it also sucks that America is their friend.” Here is that reason; Israel cannot be separated from her people and likewise, the people of Israel cannot be separated from their homeland. The Jewish people are Israel.  Just like you cannot separate Jesus Christ from the Word, as Christ is the word — you cannot separate Israel from its people, because the people of Israel and its land — are Israel.

This is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to intellectualize standard grade Jewish hatred and hatred of Israel.

Let me also say this as well: This above that I quoted goes well beyond disagreeing with Wilsonian foreign policy. This is a straight up, unmitigated, hatred of a Country that has no other friends in the middle east. The problem is that Scott here tries to intellectualize his loathing of a people, who simply want to leave in peace in their own Country.

Let me also say this; yes, I know, I pulled my “I stand with Israel” flag down, it is explained in my sidebars here on my blog. This does not equate a hatred for Israel or its people at all. Just my dismay at American Jews,  who treat Americans spitefully. This above, goes well beyond that; and this is why I am pointing it out. The American Conservative is not just an Anti-Wilsonian foreign policy magazine; it is an anti-Israeli magazine and has been from the very start. Which is why I refuse to even link to it, except to write stuff like this here.

This above is why the paleoconservative movement never went anywhere. Not only because its stance on foreign policy is totally unrealistic in this modern age of global threats. But also because of the plain blind hatred of Jews and Israel. This is why Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul never went anywhere with their Presidential ambitions; that is because Americans simply reject hate. This is also why the American Conservative’s readership is as small as it is. Because hate is just not popular anymore.

Anti-Jihad Bloggers fighting the fight of freedom in NYC

Pamela Geller: A very pretty Lady. But, if you mess with her; she will rip your liver out and feed it to you on bread with mustard! O_o I pity the poor towel-head, er, um, I mean…. Radical Muslim that tries to tangle with her. If there ever was a “Super-Jew” superhero type, it is this woman right here. Ain’t no Christian that I know of, that has the guts and the strength. 😀

I really do not write about the struggle against radical Muslims and Jihad on this blog; mainly because it is not the focus of this blog. Oh, I will cover something that is big in the headlines about the subject, but I do not solely blog about that subject.

Anyhow, it seems that one of biggest Anti-Jihad warriors in NYC is causing a stir with the Anti-Jihad ads that she has put up in NYC subways is resulting in the haters coming out of woodwork and getting arrested. I do not write about Pamela Geller often, because I really do not know how she quite honestly feels about me; and by that I mean, I do not know if she is buying all the stupidity being written about me or not.

However, I will say this here:  I do admire her courage to do what she is doing. I mean, it is one thing to sit and write on a blog; and rip liberals a new one every day. But, it is a whole other world, to literally do the things that she is going. She is in the big fight — the big show,  if you want to call it that; when it comes to stuff like this and I admire her for it.

Also too, for those who might think that Geller is simply doing this for a quick buck or something silly like that; allow me to say this: Pamela Geller without question is one of more outspoken voices of the Anti-Jihad movement, there is no doubt about that at all.  This is why I have her in my blogroll. However, there is a reason why she is doing what it is that she is doing. She is fighting the fight against radical Islam and Jihad for people like me, who sit here and write against the actions of our Government, whether it be Republican or Democratic Party controlled.

Because if the truth was known folks; if those beltway cretins, from both parties, had their way, the first amendment would be modified to get rid of the non-corporate sites, and yes, that includes bloggers like me. Furthermore, if the liberal left had anything to say about it; Conservatives would have no right to free speech at all. No religions would be criticized at all.  Free speech would be chilled to the bone. Heck, Liberal Democrats, like FDR had a “fairness doctrine” in place in broadcast media for years! Why? Because they did not like dissent at all. Thankfully, in the 1980’s; President Ronald Reagan removed that law and now broadcast media is free to express itself and Democrats are open to full dissent in the media. Fox News channel being a great example of that.

In closing: To Pamela Geller, I simply say this: I admire you kid.  Keep fighting the good fight. It is people like Geller that inspire me to continue doing what I do; despite the fact that there these half-dead vultures who continue to circle this blog and just wait for me to do something that they feel is wrong. Just so they can go and write something about me on some stupid blog somewhere. I have said this a million times on this blog and on my old one. This blog has never, ever been about me at all. I do not do this for any sort fame or to be recognized at all.  I simply write the truth as I know it to be and tell the truth about the neo-liberal left and how they have destroyed the once honorable Democratic Party and how now they are trying to destroy America and its very foundations. If in the process of me doing this, a few persons who traffic in identity politics on the left or the right get their feathers ruffled —- tough crap!   I have never been one to have any sort of patience for political correctness. This is why I write in the style that I do. This is also why there are people out there who simply do not like me at all. Which comes with territory, and I am perfectly fine with that. I have my political positions and I realize that not everyone is going to agree with me.

So, to Pamela Geller, go get ’em gal and don’t let the bastards on the left or the right get you down.

Here is a song for the warriors like Pam Geller and those like her fighting the fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RNYZTDLqwI

 

Others: GuardianAtlas ShrugsNew York MagazineJihad WatchBelmont Club and Jammie Wearing FoolsJihad Watch

Videos: Liberal rag Mother Jones delivers another nothing-burger on Mitt Romney, this time, on Israel and the middle east

Here we go again, a follow-up to the earlier nothing-burger that the liberals seem to believe will destroy Mitt Romney. Here comes another nothing-burger.

Via liberal rag Mother Jones:

On the Middle East Conflict:

Quote:

I’m torn by two perspectives in this regard. One is the one which I’ve had for some time, which is that the Palestinians have no interest whatsoever in establishing peace, and that the pathway to peace is almost unthinkable to accomplish. Now why do I say that? Some might say, well, let’s let the Palestinians have the West Bank, and have security, and set up a separate nation for the Palestinians. And then come a couple of thorny questions. And I don’t have a map here to look at the geography, but the border between Israel and the West Bank is obviously right there, right next to Tel Aviv, which is the financial capital, the industrial capital of Israel, the center of Israel. It’s—what the border would be? Maybe seven miles from Tel Aviv to what would be the West Bank…The other side of the West Bank, the other side of what would be this new Palestinian state would either be Syria at one point, or Jordan. And of course the Iranians would want to do through the West Bank exactly what they did through Lebanon, what they did near Gaza. Which is that the Iranians would want to bring missiles and armament into the West Bank and potentially threaten Israel. So Israel of course would have to say, “That can’t happen. We’ve got to keep the Iranians from bringing weaponry into the West Bank.” Well, that means that—who? The Israelis are going to patrol the border between Jordan, Syria, and this new Palestinian nation? Well, the Palestinians would say, “Uh, no way! We’re an independent country. You can’t, you know, guard our border with other Arab nations.” And now how about the airport? How about flying into this Palestinian nation? Are we gonna allow military aircraft to come in and weaponry to come in? And if not, who’s going to keep it from coming in? Well, the Israelis. Well, the Palestinians are gonna say, “We’re not an independent nation if Israel is able to come in and tell us what can land in our airport.” These are problems—these are very hard to solve, all right? And I look at the Palestinians not wanting to see peace anyway, for political purposes, committed to the destruction and elimination of Israel, and these thorny issues, and I say, “There’s just no way.” And so what you do is you say, “You move things along the best way you can.” You hope for some degree of stability, but you recognize that this is going to remain an unsolved problem. We live with that in China and Taiwan. All right, we have a potentially volatile situation but we sort of live with it, and we kick the ball down the field and hope that ultimately, somehow, something will happen and resolve it. We don’t go to war to try and resolve it imminently. On the other hand, I got a call from a former secretary of state. I won’t mention which one it was, but this individual said to me, you know, I think there’s a prospect for a settlement between the Palestinians and the Israelis after the Palestinian elections. I said, “Really?” And, you know, his answer was, “Yes, I think there’s some prospect.” And I didn’t delve into it.

He is speaking the truth here. The Palestinians do NOT want a two-State solution. They want Israel pushed into the sea. They have said this a thousand times. Besides that, that land is Israel’s land, it says that in the Bible and that should be the end of the discussion; as for as this writer is concerned.

On Iraq and Nukes:

Quote:

If I were Iran, if I were Iran—a crazed fanatic, I’d say let’s get a little fissile material to Hezbollah, have them carry it to Chicago or some other place, and then if anything goes wrong, or America starts acting up, we’ll just say, “Guess what? Unless you stand down, why, we’re going to let off a dirty bomb.” I mean this is where we have—where America could be held up and blackmailed by Iran, by the mullahs, by crazy people. So we really don’t have any option but to keep Iran from having a nuclear weapon.

This is a classic foreign policy position that President himself also supports. In the case of Iran, it is totally warranted.

The president’s foreign policy, in my opinion, is formed in part by a perception he has that his magnetism, and his charm, and his persuasiveness is so compelling that he can sit down with people like Putin and Chávez and Ahmadinejad, and that they’ll find that we’re such wonderful people that they’ll go on with us, and they’ll stop doing bad things. And it’s an extraordinarily naive perception.

Again, this is true; the recent events have proven that many times over.

Once again, Mother Jones has proven itself incapable of bringing any sort of “real” dirt out on Governor Romney. The only thing that they have; is the Governor speaking honestly about President Obama, his foreign policy and Israel. Now it seems that Mother Jones is now focusing on the private life of the person that hosted the fundraiser. This very thing, ought to show you what it is, that we are dealing with here.

It is called desperation.

Yes! Someone smart comes out and says it

I have been thinking along these same lines.

Via The Christian Post

WASHINGTON – An evangelical professor who was part of a summit on foreign policy held at Georgetown University believes that evangelicals should avoid “Muslim-baiting.”
David Gushee, founder of the organization Evangelicals for Human Rights and professor at Mercer University, told The Christian Post that evangelicals should not participate in projects like the anti-Muhammad film that sparked violent protests in the Middle East.

“We certainly need to have no participation in what you might call ‘Muslim-baiting.’ If we know that attacks on the character of the prophet Muhammad evoke predictably violent reactions, it’s just foolish and unwise and immoral,” said Gushee.

“You want to avoid such things from happening and we need to quarantine out of our community this kind of Muslim-baiting that is happening on our fringes.”

Gushee also told CP that the violence by reactionary Islamic mobs in Libya and Egypt should never be considered justified in their actions.

“We also need to say that random killings of westerners or Americans or Christians because some foolish person somewhere made a film about Muhammad are wrong too,” he said. “Outbursts of randomly directed violence against people who were not involved with the provocation are unjustifiable and must be condemned.”

My feelings about the religion itself aside; the fact of reality is that there are peaceful Muslims here in America and putting these videos out does nothing provoke overseas Muslims to rage, which in turn makes American Muslims look horrible.

It is a sticky situation at best. The question is how does one respond?