Living Proof of the Apostasy of the Southern Baptist Convention

Please note: This blog entry is not written by a secularist. But rather by a Fundamentalist Baptist Christian. I will fully admit, that I am not the best at the Christian bit, (Anyone who has read my old blog, will tell you this — and yes, I have looked at some of the older entries and went, “Ugh!”)  and that I left in disgust from a IFB Church. I would go to another Church, but right now; my personal situation dictates otherwise.  However, I believe that truth should be written about this news story.

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One simple question must be asked of one who calls themselves a Christian. Do you truly believe that God’s Word is true or do you believe that it is up for debate?

The story is at CNN; one of a preaching dynasty. One Charles Stanley; who seems to believe that he has some sort of special revelation from God —- concerning his marriage.

I will not quote the entire thing, I have been doing that a bit too much as of late. I encourage you to go read the story. Because it is two stories in one, one of a son watching his Father’s marriage fall apart and of another; of Andy Stanley’s rejection of the traditional Christianity for modernism. The quote that I would like to focus on, is this one from the elder Charles Stanley, concerning divorce and remarriage and the pulpit.

The quote and please note: this may be a bit long, but I want you to get the point:

‘I got that straight from the Lord’

Andy didn’t know his parents’ marriage was in trouble until he was in the 10th grade. Before then, he never saw his father or his mother argue or even disagree. Charles and Anna Stanley seemed to have the perfect relationship.

A year after his father appointed him to pastor a satellite church, he knew his parents’ marriage was disintegrating. They had been to every counselor and doctor imaginable. Eventually, his mother moved out and stopped attending church with his father.

"People got used to it, and they quit asking about it," he says. "It happened so gradually."

Anna Stanley had made her own mark on the church — and on her son.

"No matter what I did, I could come home and tell her," he says. "She never freaked out, never overreacted. She was always a very safe place."

The Rev. Louie Giglio, one of Andy’s best friends growing up, still remembers some of the lessons Andy’s mother taught at summer Bible camp.

"All of Andy’s wisdom doesn’t come from his dad," says Giglio, now senior pastor of Passion City Church in Atlanta and a founder of the Passion Movement, a popular outreach effort for young evangelicals. "She was incredibly insightful."

The quiet exit of Anna Stanley from the pews went public in June 1993 when she filed for divorce. Her action caused a sensation in Southern Baptist circles, where divorce is considered a sin by some based on a literal reading of the Bible. Some pastors shunned Charles; others publicly demanded that he step down. The scandal dragged on for years as the couple attempted to reconcile.

In 1995, Anna Stanley explained why she wanted a divorce in a letter to her husband’s church that was excerpted in the local newspaper, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, in an article titled "Torn Asunder."

She said she had experienced "many years of discouraging disappointments and marital conflict. … Charles, in effect, abandoned our marriage. He chose his priorities, and I have not been one of them."

The impending divorce didn’t just threaten Charles’ family; it jeopardized his ministry.

He had always preached unquestioning obedience to the Word of God. And wasn’t Jesus clear about divorce in Gospel passages such as Luke 16:18: "Every one who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery."

New Testament passages such as those had prompted First Baptist to institute a policy that prevented divorced men from serving as pastors or deacons. What would the church do when its celebrity pastor — the man who packed the pews and beamed First Baptist’s name across the globe — got a divorce?

Charles treated the calls for him to step down like he treated the punch in the jaw so long ago — he didn’t flinch. He said he would gladly work on his marriage but he wouldn’t resign as pastor.

Gayle White, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution religion writer at the time, dug up a quote from the embattled pastor that explained his rationale and used it in her "Torn Asunder" article:

"You see, into my ministry I brought the survival spirit. You do or die. You do whatever is necessary to win. It doesn’t make any difference what it is."

That survival spirit was second nature for Charles, whose father died when he was 9 months old and who grew up so poor that he learned about Santa Claus the Christmas morning he discovered in his stocking the orange that had been in the refrigerator the night before. He lived in 17 homes by his 8th birthday.

His mother, Rebecca, worked two jobs and was often away from home. But she’d leave her son notes, reminding him of chores, giving him advice or simply to say, "Charles, I love you."

At night, she’d kneel beside her only child and pray, "God bless Charles here for whatever it may be."

Just as his mother protected him, Charles shielded her. She married an abusive alcoholic who told his stepson he would never amount to anything and sometimes tried to attack Rebecca.

Charles would intervene.

"You come after my mom," he’d say, "you come after me."

So it was really no surprise that, decades later, Charles would refuse to back down. He told opponents calling for his resignation that he answered to a higher authority.

"God said you keep doing what I called you to until I tell you to do something else," he says today. "I got that straight from the Lord. … I was simply obeying God."

Besides, what could he do — make someone not divorce him?

"If somebody doesn’t love you and doesn’t want to live with you, you can’t — nowhere in the Scripture does it say that you’re to preach the gospel until someone does this or that," he says.

Charles, though, wasn’t the only one in his family with a strong will. His son had other ideas about divorce.

Now, while I might appreciate what this poor man went through, and I understand that a marriage is a tough thing to keep up and yes, it does require effort on both parties parts. The plain fact is, that this man is simply wrong about what he believes about marriage. Having “your own ideas” about marriage and divorce is basically another way of saying that you are going to directly reject the doctrines of the Bible and are going to do it your way. This is in essence rebellion and the Bible is not to kind to rebels.

Some scriptures:

It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery. (Matthew 5:31-32 KJV)

The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. (Matthew 19:3-9 KJV)

And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him. And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you? And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter. And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery. (Mark 10:2-12 KJV)

I believe that it is safe to say; that Jesus meant that, when he said it. Furthermore, more specifically, the Bible is quite clear that divorced and remarried people, have zero business being in the pulpit at all. 

More Bible:

This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. (1 Timothy 3:1-7 KJV)

If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate; Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. (Titus 1:6-9 KJV)

Charles Stanley quite obviously failed in this area. Another thing that I need to address, is this whole foolish idea that Mr. Charles Stanley somehow or another “heard from God” and somehow or another God supposedly told him that he should continue preaching. This also is against the Word of God and proves that Charles Stanley is in deep apostasy.

Quoting the Bible:

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. – (2 Peter 1:20-21 KJV)

In other words, Charles Stanley is wrong about the Lord supposedly “speaking” to him. Everything that the Lord Jesus has ever had to say about anything or anyone is contained in the 66 books of the Bible. End of discussion. Anyone that says anything other than that is an apostate and is telling a bald-faced lie. David Cloud, who is a Fundamentalist Baptist missionary, of whom I greatly respect; speaking of Peter S. Ruckman, another apostate with in the Fundamentalist Baptist circles, who also takes an extremist stance on the King James Version of the Bible —- says the following:

Divorces do not take place in a vacuum. They take place in an environment filled with anger, carnality, hostility, bitterness, and sin. That is not judgmentalism; it is fact. Some of my godly divorced friends confess this as strongly as I do. In fact, consider how Ruckman himself describes his family life in days gone by: “I have had two wives desert me after fifteen years of marriage … I have been in court custody cases, where seven children’s futures were held in the balance; in situations where Gospel articles were being torn out of typewriters, Biblical artwork torn off the easels, women trying to throw themselves out of cars at fifty m.p.h., mailing wedding rings back in the middle of revival services, cutting their wrists, threatening to leave if I did not give my church to their kinfolk; deacons threatening to burn down my house and beat me up; children in split custody between two domiciles two hundred miles apart, and knock-down, drag-out arguments in the home sometimes running as long as three days” (The Last Grenade, p. 339). That is what the man admits took place. That is only a small glimpse into the sin and confusion surrounding those years. Friends, you can label me a judge if you want, but a man with that type of family life has no business in the pastorate. Let him preach on the streets. Let him preach in the jails. Let him preach in the nursing homes. Let him preach in other ways, but we must obey the Bible and reserve the pastorate for men who have godly homes.

This also applies to Charles Stanley as well. It is no wonder that Andy Stanley is an apostate that embraces modernism. He learned it from his own Father! Again, I do not write this as a surly judgmental type. I write this, as someone who is saddened to see just how apostate the Southern Baptist Convention Churches have become. It is a rot that started many, many years ago and is continuing to this very day.

Again, I do not write this, as someone who thinks he is better than these people are; I too, have my own failings. However, I believe it is important for people to know that what Charles Stanley is doing is wrong in the sight of God and what his Son is doing, that being the rejection of the doctrine of the Word of God and the softness in his stance towards Gays is also wrong. Apostasy produces more of the same. It is a shame, but it is reality.

36 thoughts on “Living Proof of the Apostasy of the Southern Baptist Convention

  1. This whole article is simply ridiculous, especially with how you are making your own private interpretation of Scripture to mean what you want it to mean. We have to take the Word of God at face value with what it says and thus this entire argument can resolved with the following two points. First, all the quotes you used involve a man putting away his wife mean just that – a man putting away his wife. From what it sounds like to me, Dr. Stanley, a devoted and dedicated servant of God had a wife who simply couldn’t handle his level of service or couldn’t somehow get involved so as to be with her husband, or whatever it would have taken to be a godly and submissive wife who recognized how blessed a life in Christ she had, but instead decided to put him away. The whole point is – He wasn’t the one doing the putting. She was. Unless he was cheating on her, or involved in something illegal, or beating her or abusing her in any way, she was in outright rebellion to God for what she did and clearly an act of the devil. Why then should Dr. Stanley lose his entire ministry as a result of such apostasy on part of his wife?

    Secondly, you whole repetition of using the verse, “A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober…” First, if I recall, Dr. Stanley tried to work it out with his wife and was willing, even at the very end to reconcile. So how can he be seen as anything but blameless? Is his only crime in the eyes of his ex-wife being that of too much service to his ministry? I can see how this could certainly strain a marriage, but what kind of wife are you to want to come home to, to begin with? Clearly, something was amiss, otherwise God’s design for marriage is essentially foolproof. And secondly with this quote, when it says “husband of one wife”, it is referring to a man who is a one woman man. Not one who philanders, or is even flirtatious, but a staunch man of God who is completely devoted to his wife and his wife only. It doesn’t mean that a bishop MUST have a wife. That is ludicrous and it seems that this is what you are implying since there is no other possible attempted applicability otherwise. There are plenty of Pastors who are unmarried, single, chaste, all of the above who are wholly capable of serving God. So, really, this entire article is completely foolish and interesting how I stumbled upon it. Anyway, no offense, but truth be truth and trying to apply a twisted truth to a proven good man of God for the sake of trying to discredit him is really not very Christlike. -JRC

      1. I believe that some people are a little confused here. I love Dr. Stanley myself, and have listened to many of his teachings. However, it has nothing to do with whether I love him, or feel sympathy for him. It has to do with what the Word of God says. As people of God, we are to obey the Bible exactly as it is written. It is amazing that so many people feel that how one feels about a person, or how we see things overrides the Word of God. Even when you quote exactly what the Word says, people are still arguing against doing the right thing. It boils down to obeying the Word, or paying the consequence.
        While Dr. Stanley is not under condemnation, since he was not the one who left, and subsequently filed for the divorce, he is required do as the Word says.

    1. Thank you! My exact thoughts. The man did nothing wrong. In the days of Christ, was there ever a “Bishop?” Did they have Pastors and Reverends and whatever title men of God (and women inclusive) now hold? If you want to take everything the Bible says at face value, then, women should not take to the Pulpit or preach the Word in Church for that matter, as the Bible admonishes woman to be silent in Church and conduct themselves in an orderly manner. That instruction was for the Church then. It doesn’t apply to the twenty first century, otherwise, Joyce Meyer would be apostate by the writer’s standard. As for the girls mentioned having Facebook pictures in bikini, isn’t that a Western culture? I for one don’t own one and never wore one. It’s not in my culture and my body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. It’s not to be displayed in public. When these girls have an encounter with the Holy Spirit, they would see the light, if not, it’s up to them. I wouldn’t personally criticize them for they haven’t come to the realization that it is immodest, in my personal view. Just saying.

      1. I got news for you lady, She *IS* an apostate! The apostate mentality of this comment is amazing. No wonder the Lord Jesus Said this:

        And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
        (Revelation 3:14-20 KJV)

        That above describes you and your apostate friends to a tee. So does this:

        Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry. (2 Timothy 4:2-5 KJV)

  2. If Charles Stanley never remarried which he didn’t then he was still the husband of one wife. Many would even say that this meant not a polygamist since often times in scripture men had more than one wife. Just because his wife left him does not mean he did not rule his own home well. His children were not rebellious. Also look at the first part of that scripture, if a man desires the office of bishop and at the time Mr. Stanley became a pastor that was all the case. Don’t change the scripture to say that because his wife divorced him God took away his right to preach since he was lead by God to do so. He never dated or had relationship with other women which is what would have made this an apostasy which it isn’t.

  3. Well, I can hold it against him, Because the Bible does as well.

    Quoting the Holy Scriptures, which is the King James Bible:

    This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)— (1 Timothy 3:1-5 KJV)

    What part of “Husband of one wife” and “Rule his own house” do you not understand?

    It isn’t about “holding anything against him”, it is about the direct obedience or in his case, flagrant disobedience of the Word of God.

    It amazes me that in this time of great apostasy that people simply want to ignore the Word of God.

  4. How can yoiu hold it against Dr. Stanley if his wife filed for a divorce? The pastoral ministry, especially of a mega church, got to be very demanding and it can certainly take its toll on relationships. He didnt cheat on her. He didnt beat on her. He didnt abuse her. In one article his children both son and daughter talked about how he lived the same life at home as he did at church. Unfortunately, his marriage dissolved, but he is still a man of God as much respected as any Christian claimant I Know. Give the man a break. He’s a man of God, not God! He’s not perfect and neither are we!

  5. You are not alone in your assessment of Charles Stanley’s ministry. His church is also in apostasy, as is his “worldwide” mega-millions ministry, one of the richest on planet Earth. Have you ever read his squeeky-clean monthly “Intouch” magazine? It’s theme is ‘man-centered’. He knows nothing of the sovereign Lord with whom we have to do.

      1. What does the bible say about he without sin throwing the first stone? I love Charles Stanley and have been listening to him for over 30 years. There have been times where the message he preached saved my life. I listened to him on the radio before tv. I’m not baptise. He has a gift whether you like it or not. It’s not his fault that his wife walked away. What about disciple Paul. His wife left him yet he was one of the greatest preachers. God blessed Charles Stanley and will continue to do so. He is a good man and deserves blessings.

        1. You might like him, but that does not change the fact that he is in open rebellion to God.

          And it’s not about throwing stones at all it’s about exposing apostate error within the Southern Baptist Convention that’s what this posting was truly about. Sorry if it offends you but I must tell the truth on my blog which I do everyday and the truth is in the Word of God and that man has his own idea about what he is going to do and it is out of alignment with the Word of God just that simple.

          1. If his wife wanted and filed for the divorce, what was he supposed to do? You can’t make someone stay if they don’t want too.

          2. I have no problem with that, but what I do have a problem with is him continuing to be in the pulpit!

            This is not a matter of me being judgemental or anything; it is a matter of the Word of God. The Bible says the following, which I wrote above:

            This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) (1 Timothy 3:1-5 KJV)

            Again, this is not about me, or even my opinion. It is about Charles Stanley’s open rebellion to the Word of God. But, this is the absolute norm for the Southern Baptist Convention. They’re ripe full of apostasy.

          3. First, I’m not Baptist but, think you’re distorting what the Bible teaches. It says if the man puts away his wife. That wasn’t the case here. She divorced him. And, he did not remarry. Therefore, he was the husband of one wife.

            As far as his son being under his subjection, I believe that’s referring to children in the home, not once they no longer are a member of that house.

            I don’t find any biblical foundation for your stand for the above reasons.

            As far as how much money he has earned, the Bible says the teacher is worth his wage. God didn’t set a monetary limit to what a teacher/preacher/pastor/minister/bishop should make. I’m personally happy some of God’s servants are given so much. For all you know, a lot of that goes into spreading the Word, tithing, generosity, charity, etc. To those who are given much, more will be expected. That’s between him and God.

            I believe you are being judgemental concerning things that aren’t spelled out the way you’ve made it appear. I read the same verses and get a whole different take on it. What he’s done is not covered in those verses.

            You aren’t just stating he’s no longer qualified to preach but are saying he’s sinning where the Bible isn’t calling his case a sin. That is wrong and judging without cause.

            Where is grace in all of this anyway?

          4. I am saying it, because the Bible says it, let’s read the work of God again, shall we?

            This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. A bishop thenmust be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. (1 Timothy 3:1-7 KJV)

            Again, this is not about what *I* think; this is about what God thinks. Charles Stanley was not in control of his household and his wife divorced him. This, right way, alone disqualified him from the pulpit. This is not about Grace either; this is about a man, who decided that he was going to do what HE wanted, instead of what the Word of God says, in regards to Pastor’s. Charles Stanley was not without blame, neither was his wife and because of this, there was a divorce and because of that, according to Word of God, he was no longer qualified to be a Pastor.

            I simply do not understand, why these mentally depraved Apostates do not understand this. Must be liberalism, as we all know liberalism is a mental disorder. Same is true in liberal Christianity.

          5. Furthermore, I saw your comment, where you made an insulting statement to me. If you cannot come here, without making personal insults, then just don’t bother commenting. I deleted your comment and if you continue, I’ll ban you from even viewing this blog.

            End of discussion. This is my house and you will not come here and disrespect me. It’s not a right to comment here, but a privilege and you abuse it; and you are out of here for good. 😡

          6. He is not in rebellion to God for the Heavenly Father is not the scary monster up there we sometimes imagine Him to be. Why did Jesus come? To save us from the curse of the Law. No one, has the ability to fulfill the entire ten commandments. We are all sinners saved by Grace alone, not works. He received a calling of God upon his life, long, long before getting married and having a family. Because his wife left him doesn’t mean God’s anointing upon his life had ceased. Nobody was there when God called him into His service. The success of his ministry is an evidence of God’s favor on him. Let’s not just be judgemental for no reason. If he’s done something wrong, he will answer to God, not man. Stop acting like white-washed sepulcher, people. I am not a Baptist but a child of God, nonetheless. What would the writer of the article have him do instead, after his wife divorced him? Stay in his house and cry because of that? Do you know how many people his sermons have touched and made a huge impact on their lives? I never even knew he was divorced until the search for another preacher led me to his profile on Google and just out of curiosity, I clicked on his name. Christians should not harbor hate or condemnation. Unbelievers already have a lot of that. We should be like Christ and not cast stones. He even forgave the woman at the well. His wife divorcing him doesn’t make him a sinner or disobedient to God’s law. The Bible was not originally written in English. It was subject to numerous editions and interpretation over the years. Do you take every admonition there literally? If someone slaps you on the right cheek, do you turn the left to them to slap as well? Wisdom is the principal thing. With all thy getting, get wisdom and with all thy getting, get understanding. There’s a reason Jesus came into the world. He died, even for the unborn baby who has not being conceived yet. Such is the Grace of God over us if we believe His Son and accept Him as our Lord and Savior. Forget about legalism, please!

          7. I got news for you, He *IS* in rebellion! The apostate mentality of this comment is amazing. No wonder the Lord Jesus Said this:

            And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
            (Revelation 3:14-20 KJV)

            That above describes you and your apostate friends to a tee. So does this:

            Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry. (2 Timothy 4:2-5 KJV)

          8. You are ridiculous. Ever heard of forgiveness? Repentance? If he asked for forgiveness, it is forgiven. His hands were tied. You are like the legalistic Pharisees of old. Jesus was not fond of them. You are the type of person who, by your legalistic and narrow minded views, you actually turn people away from God. You will answer for that one day. You don’t speak truth, you speak your personal version of it. That’s called hypocrisy.

          9. Sorry Mary, But I speak of the Word of God. Not current accepted trends. His hands were NOT tied as you say. His marriage was in trouble He could have stepped down. But, he chose not to. This puts him in violation of the word of God. So, go argue with the Bible, not me.

        2. exposing the apostasy of a pastor is not throwing stones, it is exposing apostasy, it is in no way the same as throwing physical rocks at an adulterous woman.

          1. Charles, I learned about the issues of the modern bible versions only like a month and a half ago and what has happened in USA church as a result of it.

            My own sister and niece attend one of Andy Stanley’s (Charles Stanley’s son’s )churches and of course the King James Bible is nowhere near that church and the fruit of it is evident, even right now my sister’s facebook page displays my sister and niece standing in bikini bathing suits side by side displaying their bodies to the world with no hint of modesty that “Christian” women should display according to the bible.

            I think of myself as being Holy Bible Only rather than King James Only it happens though that out of the 200+ English bible versions the Holy Bible in English is the King James Bible, in Spanish or German or French the Holy Bible would be the Bible in those languages that say what the King James Bible says in english

          2. I agree with you there. The key word is compromise, and there’s a lot of that in the USA churches. It started when they removed the King James Bible. Its called cultural Marxism, and this is a problem in the churches today the problem is nobody knows what to call it so they just allowed to happen. This will never change unless people repent and turn back to God and put the Word of God back in the church and actually preach it.

          3. I think I feel the need to say this, even though I probably shouldn’t have to I will anyhow.

            I didn’t post this blog entry because I claimed to have some sort of moral superiority to anyone in the Southern Baptist Convention. Furthermore, I don’t post this mockingly or anything like that; I simply posted this blog entry out of utter sadness about the fact that the southern baptist convention has been utterly steeped in apostasy since the late 1960s. First thing they did was they got rid of the King James Bible and then they began to discount the fundamentals of the Faith and began to embrace modernism and Pentecostalism.

            And this posting here detailing what happened with this pastor is proof of it.

            Hope this clears this up a bit.

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