Downsizedc.org’s Response to Keith Olbermann’s Special Comment

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Subject: A comment on Keith Olbermann’s “Special Comment”

DC Downsizers bombarded MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann with more than 1,700 messages yesterday. These messages urged Olbermann to hold his favored president candidate, Barack Obama, to the same standards he has applied to President Bush. Your messages may have had an impact.

This is the first time we’ve sent more than 70,000 messages in a single month. We shattered our old record by more than 19,000. Thank you to everyone who participated to make June such a successful month. Your efforts do have an impact.

They may have had an impact on Keith Olbermann. It seemed to us that his “Special Comment” seemed slightly softer that what it had been advertised to be. And others observing Olbermann have similarly opined. Moreover, Olbermann said some good things . . .

* He accused the Democrats of caving-in to fear-mongering in regard to warrantless spying and telecom immunity
* He quoted George Washington on the dangers of political parties

We like both of these things. However, Olbermann also asserted that the “FISA Amendments Act” would merely restore the old way of authorizing domestic surveillance, implying that warrants will still be required for such surveillance. We disagree. We think the bill pretty much allows presidents to spy on anyone they want, with insufficient judicial control. You can read our analysis here.

Mr. Olbermann also asserted that the “FISA Amendments Act” only grants immunity from civil suits, and that criminal prosecutions will still be possible. He bases this claim on an analysis by John Dean in collaboration with lawyers from the ACLU. We work in coalition with some of those same ACLU lawyers, so we’ll be checking the claim and reporting back to you. However . . .

We’re not as thrilled by this as Olbermann and Dean seem to be. They seem confident that Obama would pursue prosecutions if elected. We are less confident. And what will happen if McCain is elected? The answer is NOTHING. Olbermann and Dean seem not to have considered this possibility.

Olbermann and Dean do acknowledge that President Bush could pardon the telecoms, but they think this would be a good thing, because it would be an admission of guilt. Again, we disagree, because we’re more worried about the future than about this particular instance of law breaking.

If the “FISA Amendments Act” passes, and the telecoms get off scott free, either through a pardon, or through a failure to prosecute by either Obama or McCain, then the way will be cleared for more illegal activity in the future. The fact remains that if the “FISA Amendments Act” fails, then . . .

* Warrants will be required for surveillance
* The existing court cases against the telecoms will be able to proceed to their day of justice

This is what all of us, including Olbermann, should be aiming at. We should NOT be trying to create wiggle room for Barack Obama or the Senate Democrats. Olbermann has done good work in the past by criticizing President Bush’s lawbreaking, but his partisan preference for Obama and the Democrats has now led him astray, as partisanship almost always does.

Olbermann has tried to give Mr. Obama an excuse for abandoning his defense of the Bill of Rights. We intend to compensate for Olbermann’s mistake by pressuring Mr. Obama to lead his party in defeating the “FISA Amendments Act.” We have created a new campaign for this purpose. Please send Barack Obama, at his campaign, a message. You can do so here.

Thank you for being a part of the growing Downsize DC Army.

Jim Babka
President
DownsizeDC.org, Inc.

Whether you agree or disagree on this subject or not. It is worth noting.

Keith Olbermann’s Special Comment on FISA and Senator Obama

Transcript: (via The News Hole)

Finally, as promised, a Special Comment on FISA and the Junior Senator from Illinois.

The Democratic leadership in the Senate, Republican knuckle-dragging in the same chamber, and the mediocre skills of whoever wrote the final version of the FISA bill, have combined to give Senator Barack Obama… a second chance to make a first impression.

And he damned well better take it.

The Senate vote on this tortured and reckless piece of legislation has now been postponed until after the 4th of July break.

The Democrats, completing their FISA experience (a collective impression of Homer Simpson falling off a cliff and hitting every bramble on the way down), didn’t exactly plan this fortuitous delay.

Last week, the vote on their cave-in was imminent.

But, while arguing over a piece of housing legislation, about how many mortgage lenders can dance on the head of a pin, Republicans dithered so long about protecting their constituents — the banks — that the Senate calendar got backed up.

This, in turn, gave Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid some time to think.

There was one among his group, chosen to run for President, who had loudly assailed the idea of handing a get-out-of-jail-free card to corporations who had approached definitional fascism by breaking the law in concert with the Bush Administration.

But this Senator had suddenly realized, that to the large group of voters who operate with an information base that would make Cliffs Notes look like the Encyclopedia, if, in the final vote, he stood against FISA, he would hand them a rock with which they could hit him over the head, a rock wrapped up in a piece of paper reading:

"Obama voted uh-uh… thing terror stop."

Thus, Senator Obama, was born your first second chance.

Senator Reid was kind enough to help you out by composing an amendment that would keep FISA, which you rightly endorse, but strips out the telecom immunity, which you rightly oppose.

It’s a protest, a decidedly lame one, but in our daily world of political transactions, voting for the amendment when it has no chance of passing and has been in essence constructed as pure Obama C-Y-A, that is a petty crime.

Whether it will do more to harm your premise of "new politics" than to your credibility as an immunity-opponent, is for you, Senator, to assess.

And live with.

It would be sweet to have a pure, politics-free president, but the last of those retired from office in 1797.

And while we’ve all quoted the farewell address of "The Father Of Our Nation" for 211 years now, nobody seems to want to remember that its point was to urge his children that: whatever you do, for God’s sake, don’t form political parties, some day they will kill you.

Anyway, Senator, your problem here isn’t the backlash about telecom immunity, and it isn’t really about your political fluidity on the FISA bill.

Your problem is what happens even if this plays out according to plan next week:

1) You vote for the anti-immunity amendment.

2) The anti-immunity amendment fails.

3) You vote for the FISA legislation.

And 4) The FISA legislation passes.

Oh, and, 5) Senator:

The Republicans still run against you with the ‘elections-for-dummies ‘message: "Obama voted uh-uh… thing terror-stop."

Because, inside the obscenity that was Charlie Black’s comment about how a terrorist attack in this country would be good — good for his boy McCain’s chances for election…

Inside the inhuman calculation that Benazhir Bhutto did not die in vain, she helped McCain in the New Hampshire primary.

There is a sad and cynical reality.

The Republicans can scare some of the people all of the time, and they can scare all of the people some of the time.

This is all they are right now.

Nobody ever said it better than did Aaron Sorkin in his script for the movie "The American President":

"Whatever your particular problem is, friend, I promise you, Bob Rumson (and for Bob Rumson, reed "John McCain") is not the least bit interested in solving it. He is interested in two things and two things only: Making you afraid of it, and telling you who’s to blame for it."

Republicans, with almost no exceptions, have no true credibility on counter-terrorism, no track record of prevention or amelioration, and their president can’t even remember the name of the skyscraper he claims to have saved in Los Angeles.

And yet, somehow, the Republicans have managed to convince the public that it doesn’t matter that Mr. Bush had already completed 22 percent of his first term, when he, his administration, and his party, failed so catastrophically on 9/11.

The President and party who were at fault, were magically transformed into the president and party who would never let it happen again.

An unjust… repellant… nefarious, trick.

But, politically, rather a neat trick.

Senator, the Republicans are going to paint you as soft on terror no matter how you vote on FISA.

Or how you vote on the Telecom Immunity Amendment.

Or on the next farm bill.

Last week it was Grover Norquist calling you "John Kerry with a tan."

By November 1st, it’ll be Dick Cheney calling you "Osama Bin Laden with a tan."

When you announced your support of this latest FISA bill (with or without the telecom immunity), the Republicans raced to get out a press release accusing you of flip-flopping.

You shared the exact same position, on which they are running their entire campaign and they criticized you anyway!

So, Senator, from their point of view, they think they’ve got you boxed in.

Vote for FISA and you’ve contradicted yourself.

Vote against FISA and it’s "Obama voted uh-uh… thing terror-stop."

Vote for FISA and against immunity, and it’s: political expediency, and Democrats soft on terror, and "Obama voted uh-uh… thing terror-stop."

This is a problem, Senator.

Because, flatly, of all the measures that can be taken to aid our damaged nation, and our de-valued constitution, the first, if not the foremost, is not blocking telecom immunity, but making sure no Republican is in the White House past noon next January 20th.

Of all the remedial efforts against the Bush Administration’s high crimes and misdemeanors, and of all the prophylactic steps against further inroads against the freedoms of the citizens of this nation and the rights of everyone else, the primary step must still come to us through the prism of politics.

Would that it were otherwise. But it ain’t.

Frankly, Senator, this political tight-rope act you’ve tried on FISA the last two weeks, which from the outside seems to have been intended to increase the chances of your election, probably hasn’t helped in the slightest.

There is, fortunately, a possible, a most unexpected, solution.

Your second second chance.

Since the final version of the FISA bill was passed down from on high, John Dean has been reading it, and re-reading it, and cross-referencing it with other relevant law, and thinking.

Something bothered him about it.

Or, more correctly, something didn’t bother him about it.

Turns out lawyers at the ACLU have been doing the same thing for the last ten days.

John compared notes with them, and will be devoting his column at "Find Law" this week, to this unlikely conclusion:

< p>The Republicans who wrote most of this bill at Mr. Bush’s urging, managed to immunize the telecoms from civil suits.

But not from criminal prosecution.

Senator, here is John Dean’s summary of his findings, which he sent me this morning.

"It is clear not only from the language of the bill (which must be read in the context of other, related statutes to be clearly understood),

but also from the legislative history, that there is absolutely no criminal immunity for anyone in these FISA amendments."

More over, Senator, it seems as if a lot of people have known this, for a long time.

"During the January 24th, 2008 debate in the Senate, Senator Brownback noted, "The immunity provisions would not apply to the Government or Government officials. Cases against the Government regarding the alleged programs would continue.  And the provisions would apply only to civil and not criminal cases."

In fact, Senator, just last week, Attorney General Mukasey and Director of National Intelligence McConnell sent a letter, for the record, to House Speaker Pelosi emphasizing that the liability protection, quote, "does not immunize any criminal conduct."

And if you ask, Senator, about the President responding to all this by belching out a series of pardons or a blanket pardon to those who broke the law on his behalf, Dean has you covered here, too…

It… "would require acceptance by them of the fact that they had broken the law, and thus be an admission of guilt.

"And a blanket pardon would be an admission by Bush that his war on terror has been a lawless undertaking, operating beyond the bounds of the Constitution and statutes that check the powers of the president and the executive branch.

"It would be an admission by Bush, too, of his own criminal culpability (which is why Nixon refused to grant his aides a pardon.)

Senator — sometimes it is better to be lucky, than good.

Keep your eye on the wording of the legislation to make sure the Republicans don’t realize its flaws.

Then vote for the amendment to strip telecom immunity out of the FISA bill.

Then after that fails, vote for the FISA bill, if that’s your final answer.

Then the minute the president has signed the FISA bill, you announce that you voted for it because it renews FISA — and because it permits a bigger prize than just civil suits, that it allows for criminal prosecution of past illegal eavesdropping.

Say, loudly, that your understanding of this bill is such, that if you are elected, your Attorney General will begin a full-scale criminal investigation of the Telecom Companies who collaborated with President Bush in eavesdropping on Americans.

And mention — oh by the way — that your Attorney General will subpoena such records, notes, e-mail, data, and testimony, from any and all Bush Administration officials, FBI or CIA personnel, or any members of the Executive Branch, who may have as much as breathed in the general direction of these nefarious acts of domestic spying at Mr. Bush’s behest.

Wait — you say there’s a political hit waiting for you there too?

Another "Obama voted uh-uh… thing terror-stop."

Actually, Senator, you’ve already gone down this road, when you spoke to my colleague, Will Bunch, of the Philadelphia Daily News, on April 14th of this year.

He asked about the possibility of criminal investigations of the 43rd President and his henchmen.

"What I would want to do," you told him, "is have my Justice Department and my Attorney General immediately review the information that’s already there and to find out, are there inquiries that need to be pursued.

I can’t prejudge that, because we don’t have access to all the material right now."

"You’re also right that I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of Republicans as a partisan witch hunt,

because I think we’ve got too many problems we’ve got to solve."

"Now, if I found out that there were high officials who knowingly, consciously broke existing laws, engaged in cover-ups of those crimes with knowledge forefront,  then I think a basic principle of our Constitution is: nobody above the law. And I think that’s roughly how I would look at it."

Make this clear, Senator.

You’ve already taken the political hit from the Right, for saying you’d seek to strip out, or rescind immunity.

You’ve already taken the political hit from the Left, for saying you’d vote for the FISA bill even with the immunity.

You’ve paid the political price in advance.

Now buy yourself — and those who have most ardently supported you — something worth more than just class action suits against Verizon.

Explain that you are standing aside on civil immunity, not just for political expediency, but for a greater and more tangible good — the holding to account, of the most-corrupt, the most dangerous, and the most anti-democracy presidential administration in our long history.

Of course, if you disagree with this interpretation — if you think the FISA bill doesn’t have the giant loophole, or if you don’t think you, as president, would be ready to support criminal prosecution of… well, criminals — then your duty is clear.

Vote against the FISA bill, if it still carries that immunity.

The Republicans are going to call you the names any which way, Senator.

They’re going to cry regardless, Senator.

And as the old line goes: give them something to cry about.

Good night, and good luck.

With Obama, it’s not all small potatoes

You know how Obama always says, that his campaign is all about the small donors? Turns out, Barry is not exactly telling the God’s honest truth.

As David Brooks dutifully observes.  

As in other recent campaigns, lawyers account for the biggest chunk of Democratic donations. They have donated about $18 million to Obama, compared with about $5 million to John McCain, according to data released on June 2 and available at OpenSecrets.org.

People who work at securities and investment companies have given Obama about $8 million, compared with $4.5 for McCain. People who work in communications and electronics have given Obama about $10 million, compared with $2 million for McCain. Professors and other people who work in education have given Obama roughly $7 million, compared with $700,000 for McCain.

Real estate professionals have given Obama $5 million, compared with $4 million for McCain. Medical professionals have given Obama $7 million, compared with $3 million for McCain. Commercial bankers have given Obama $1.6 million, compared with $1.2 million for McCain. Hedge fund and private equity managers have given Obama about $1.6 million, compared with $850,000 for McCain.

Now I am sure there will be some Liberal’s who will say something to the effect of “Sour Grapes?" However, that is not the point here. The point is that Obama is building a campaign on the premise that his Presidential Campaign is being funded by “the people”, when, in fact,  it is being funded by wealthy people on Wall Street. Which then makes the overall premise of his entire campaign a well orchestrated lie. Which some of the more stern within the Conservative movement say that is what his entire campaign is based upon.  However, I am not willing to make that harsh of a judgement.

Others: The Daily Dish, The New Republic, NY Daily News, Brilliant at Breakfast, TIME.com, Political Perceptions, pandagon.net, Donklephant, Bark Bark Woof Woof, PoliGazette and Marc Ambinder

WALL-E runs afoul of the…….Republicans?

HUH?

I know, that’s what I thought too.

However, it does seem that some Conservatives are not too pleased with the Movie.

The American Conservative Reports:

Over the past weekend I had the pleasure of seeing Disney-Pixar’s new animated movie “WALL-E.” Set in the apocalyptic-lite 28th century, WALL-E (Waste Allocation Load Lifter Earth-Class) is a small robot left behind on an abandoned planet Earth, which you discover through a set of video clips has been evacuated due to heavy pollution, brought on by mass consumerism and exploitative big business. His chance encounter with EVE (Extraterrestrial Vegetation Evaluator) is the catalyst for a surprisingly poignant love story that becomes the center of the movie’s plot. Without delving too much into my own personal opinions on the film–this post is not meant to be a review–I thought it was visually stunning, powerful, and deeply touching, and by my estimation the first Disney movie that is more meaningful and enjoyable for adults than for children.

The film has been received warmly by an overwhelming majority of critics, but some on the right are upset about some of the movie’s themes.

Okay, call me a Pseudo Liberal, call me a someone who does not take Politics seriously enough, call whatever you want to call me. But something about this just does not make sense. WALL-E is a cartoon for kids. I thought it was cool how WALL-E would say, “Whoa!” when something would happen to him. I have a buddy, named Matt Gacht, who always says, “Whoa!”, in fact, he used to say it quite a bit.

Anyhow, When I go into a Movie theater to watch a cartoon movie like this, I do not go into this theater, looking for political messages, and those who, do, I’m sorry to say it, and I don’t mean this disrespectfully, but they’re taking their jobs too darn seriously and they are taking their political jobs home with them. Sorry, but I am just not one of those people that believes that every television show or Movie is loaded down with Liberal Propaganda. I leave that sort of Idiotic mentality for the people who follow Alex Jones around frothing at the mouth, looking for the monsters behind the next door.

Anyhow, let’s cut WALL-E a break, eh?

Others, who seems to take life a wee bit to seriously: The Opinionator and The Corner

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A heart warming story and thoughts…

Check this one out, at Fox News:

Quote:

When Capt. Ivan Castro joined the Army, he set goals: to jump out of planes, kick in doors and lead soldiers into combat. He achieved them all. Then the mortar round landed five feet away, blasting away his sight.

“Once you’re blind, you have to set new goals,” Castro said.

He set them higher.

Not content with just staying in the Army, he is the only blind officer serving in the Special Forces — the small, elite units famed for dropping behind enemy lines on combat missions.

As executive officer of the 7th Special Forces Group’s headquarters company in Fort Bragg, Castro’s duties don’t directly involve combat, though they do have him taking part in just about everything that leads up to it.

“I am going to push the limits,” the 40-year-old said. “I don’t want to go to Fort Bragg and show up and sit in an office. I want to work every day and have a mission.”

You know, I hate to make this into a political cheap shot post. However, because I am a Political Blogger, and because it just pisses me off to no end that the idiot commie liberals, like John Aravosis who take it upon themselves to insult and degrade our United States Military officers on a regular basis. People like Keith Olbermann, who while some of his commentaries make good sense, especially those that pertain to George W. Bush, like to lash out in anger and tell those, who work in the pentagon, to ‘Go to Hell” for following orders by the President of the United States. Who is, in case people like Keith have forgotten, IS the commander and chief of our Military, right or wrong, he is still the boss, until his term is up.

I have to wonder aloud, which, if any of these outspoken critics of the war and of Bush, would be willing to strap on a Uniform and serve in our United States Military. I would be willing to be the fortunes of the galaxies abroad, that not one of these people would give their lives for this country. However, they can sit behind a desk, read a teleprompter, and criticize those who CHOOSE to serve their country.

I realize that I have quite a few new visitors to this Blog, and being that is the case, I will repeat something here, that I have been saying, since this Blog first came online. While I am a critic of the President of a myriad of issues, the idea that some blowhard Liberal Blogger or Liberal TV Host can use a medium, such as Television, to smear and slander someone like John McCain, is just very inexcusable. Yes Keith, I am talking about you. You will make sport of John McCain, a man, who has done more to serve his country than you will ever hope to do in a lifetime. John McCain, who spent six long years being tortured by the country of Vietnam, all because he disagrees with your very warped idea, that we can somehow just pacify these terrorists and that somehow or another, we can just wish our threats to national security away. Yet, on an issue like FISA, you will give Barack Obama a free pass and not chastise him with same fire and indignation that you did Hillary for making a stupid reference to Bobby Kennedy.

That is correct my friends, while I might agree with Keith, that the President of the United States has made some serious blunders as President, some that might continue to hurt this country for many years to come. I will never agree with Keith Olbermann’s idea that McCain is open season. John McCain is a Republican, a war hero and at best, he should respectfully disagree with him, but the only thing Keith Olbermann can do is make McCain look like some sort of a stooge. For that, his employment should be terminated.

It is because of this blatant callous disrespect for our Nation’s Military, both present and former, that I left the Liberal side of the Political fence. For the record and in the interest of full disclosure, I was what one would call, a “Conservative Democrat” or “Left of center.” However, after the actions of those who claim to be for Equality and Liberty, I decided I could never align myself with a party who chooses to disrespect, insult, and generally make sport of, our nations military servicemen for the sake of nelson rating.

This sort of Communist treachery is nothing short of the Anti-America treachery exercised against the United States of America by the Empire of Japan on December 7, 1941 at Pearl Harbor. This sort of thing I will not support, nor will I allow my Blog to associated with it. This is why I now call myself, what I tend to believe that I am, a Paleo-Conservative and Constitutionalist.

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Needless to say, there was quite a bit of, “What’s not…” So, I am giving the “What’s not’s” the ol’ heave ho.

Plus, I’m trying to keep the ad’s related to the scope and overall theme of this Blog, Politics, Conservatism, and Constitutionalism. Some of the Ad’s, I admit, were quite off topic, and did, quite frankly, kind of look like I was desperate to make any kind of money at all.

Plus too, there was just a bunch of ad’s on here. I’m all for capitalism, but I don’t want to run people off, because of the excess ads. I am a Blog reader too, and some ad’s just annoy the snot outta me. So, I try to stay aware of that, sometimes, I get little nutty with ads on here.

Not to mention, I got an e-mail from Google Adsense, they’re retiring the referral ads, so, that kind of took the purpose out of having a Ad there at the top about Gold investment, so, until I can get another affiliate company that handles gold and silver investments, I basically am removing those ads.

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