Pat Buchanan jumps the shark….again

I just did something that will most likely not endure me to the Paleo-Conservative part of our movement.  I formally requested that the owner of Pat Buchanan’s mailing list would remove me from it.  This is because of Pat Buchanan’s continued justification of the actions of Adolf Hitler.  Admittedly, when the article came bounding through my e-mail inbox yesterday, my first reaction, upon reading the title was, “Oh God, not this again.”

Pat Buchanan
Pat Buchanan

I will be the first to admit, that I agree with Pat Buchanan of fiscal matters and with this take on the Obama Administration.  However, when it comes to foreign policy and his take of the history of this Country, namely the events leading up to World War II —— Pat Buchanan is out in left field. Originally, when I was going to write this, I was going to rip that feckless old goat a good one.  However, I figure he will receive a fair share of goading from the left about this rather silly article that he has written.  Therefore, I will leave that chore to those who are best at berating Conservatives.

However, I will end this piece with something that I wrote about last week.  Rachel Lucas, a smart Texas gal of whom I have uttermost respect for; has written a very excellent article on her visit to the death camps in Poland.  Perhaps Pat Buchanan should read this posting, before he writes another one of these “Hitler was justified” type of articles.  By the way, Rachel is living overseas for the next two years.  She is blogging about her experiences over there; it is quite the treat to read.  I really do highly recommend it.

You can read the roundup of Anger towards Pat Buchanan by clicking here.

John Henke gets pushback and then whines about it.

I find this one extremely funny. John Henke calls for a Boycott of WorldNetDaily and then when WND‘s readers push back, he whines about it.

No wonder the left thinks we are bunch of damned idiots. Because of stupid stuff like this right here.

For the record, I think all Conservative viewpoints are welcomed and needed. Not just those that John Henke thinks is acceptable. His whole idea that Buckley would have boycotted WND is absolutely asinine. Not mention borders on Elitism, and approaches the level of insufferable asshole. I would expect something like this from say; Ed Schultz or even Sean Hannity, Both being insufferable assholes themselves. But coming from someone in the Grass Roots, is absolutely appalling.

The Republican Party needs a face lift. But not this kind of a face lift!  The Conservative movement is known for its tolerance of a variety of opinions. Hell, I’m here, are I not?  The left not much known for this.

Let me give you an perfect example. I am member of the BlogAds advertising system.  When I was still blogging from a left of center position, on another blog, that I used to own.  I formally asked to join the “Liberal Ad Hive”. This was way back in 2006, by the way; I was denied. Why? Because I was not a supporter of the Homosexual lifestyle. The owner of the Ad Hive is gay. Also, it was because of my stance on Abortion, which was and still is, that it is flat out murder.  Forward ahead here to around December of 2007, when I requested to add Political Byline to the Conservative Hive; this was after I came to conclusion that I just did not fit in with the modern day “Democratic Party/Socialist/liberal” crowd. Anyhow, I kindly asked John Hawkings, if I could his Conservative Hive. Much to my astonishment, he said yes!

Where am I going with all this? Hold your Horses, I am getting to my point. 😀

The point here that I am trying to make is this. Conservatives are known for our tolerance. We should not change that at all. Did John Hawkings ask me of my Conservative beliefs consist of “Such and Such and Such and Such?” No. He just said, sure! You’re in! I was surprised by this, greatly.

Why? Because folks, I will be the first to tell you, that I am nowhere near “to the right” as say, Michelle Malkin or even the guys at “The Corner” (NRO’s Blog…) But, I am someone who just believes that Free Markets work and that Government intervention in everything under the sun is just not right! Further more, I believe that Homosexuality is, in fact, an abomination to God himself and that Marriage should always remain, between a man and a woman. I also believe that Abortion is murder, no matter how you slice it. I guess that was good enough for Mr. Hawkings.

So, having wrote at all, let me say this; again, to Mr. Henke. We should not, I repeat, should NOT start to employ the strong arm tactics of the socialist left. We need good spokespeople to articulate our positions. We do not need to start mimicking the far left and become intolerant. If we do, we will lose in the end. I assure you of that. Because individual freedom is the bedrock of Conservatism, we cannot afford to sacrifice that, at all.

Has John Henke lost his mind?

Um, Sorry, but this is just damned wrong….:

In the 1960’s, William F. Buckley denounced the John Birch Society leadership for being “so far removed from common sense” and later said “We cannot allow the emblem of irresponsibility to attach to the conservative banner.”

The Birthers are the Birchers of our time, and WorldNetDaily is their pamphlet. The Right has mostly ignored these embarrassing people and organizations, but some people and organizations inexplicably choose to support WND through advertising and email list rental or other collaboration. For instance, I have been told that F.I.R.E (The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education) – an otherwise respectable group that does important work – uses the WND email list. They should stop.

No respectable organization should support the kind of fringe idiocy that WND peddles. Those who do are not respectable.

I think it’s time to find out what conservative/libertarian organizations support WND through advertising, list rental or other commercial collaboration (email me if you know of any), and boycott any of those organizations that will not renounce any further support for WorldNetDaily.

via Organizing Against WorldNetDaily | The Next Right.

Proving to the world, that John Henke is not a true Conservative; but rather a Pseudo-Conservative. Why would I make a statement like that? Because it is damned true. What Henke wants to engage in here is nothing more than a form of  “Thought Police”; which is the same damned thing that the extreme liberal/socialist left likes to do.

Want an example? Sure. I will give you one.

Back during the election of 2008; about a week before the election itself. I crossed a line that I still regret it to this day. Becoming ever pissed off at the fact that the far socialist left just kept on trying to drag race into the electoral race; despite the fact that the socialist left’s “Golden Boy” did not want the Electoral challenge to be about; in fact, race.  I took two existing photos from the internet, joined them, and added a horribly offensive text to it and whipped up a “You want it, Mother Fuckers? Hear it is!” type of a blog posting and put the photograph up for all to see.

To say that many on the far liberal left were not amused, would be the understatement of the century. To be quite blunt, they were pissed!

Want to know something else? I paid for that little act of fool hardy nonsense as well. I used to carry ads from a advertising network called AdsDaq. It did not ever pay much, maybe $50.00 or so. But I was on there. It was new and I was trilled to carry their ads. This was before I was aware of their weak stomach for potentially offensive speech. Anyhow, I posted the offensive piece and some obscure blog; that I had never heard of, picked it up and before I knew what had hit me, I was a wanted man among the far left. I ended up on DailyKos and over came Mary Scott O’Conner and her band of tricksters; writing down every damn Advertiser I had.

The Advertisers and a few of their providers; like AdsDaq, began dropping like files in a Raid bug spray testing lab. The liberals won. They attacked my pocketbook. Which is what John Henke is wishing to do here.

My question dear readers is this; are we going to engage in the same damned type of political thuggery of the liberal socialist left; by attacking someone? Are we going to do this; all because WorldNetDaily’s political opinions or WorldNetDaily’s knack of writing fabulists type of stories are potentially embarrassing to someone else?

Despite the fact that I do not consider WorldNetDaily to be a trusted news source for anything at all, Despite the fact, that WorldNetDaily originally floated the whole Orly Tate story; I will still defend WorldNetDaily’s right to exist as a company and to publish whatever they damn well please. I believe in individual freedom and the right to free speech.

Further more, I feel that John Henke is way off base for wanting to start a boycott WND. If we cannot learn to tolerate our Conservative brethren on the far right; we are no better than those of the extreme left. The WorldNetDaily writers and their many readers are not hurting anyone at all. Besides, who cares if the Boston globe thinks that WorldNetDaily is crazy? They think all Conservatives are crazy. What is the difference? Hell, Sarah Palin is a damned embarrassment to the Conservative movement, I feel. But you do not see anyone boycotting her do you?

The truth about Buckley is this; While he did bring some sanity to the Conservative movement, The John Birch Society loathed the man, because of his association with the United Nations. Personally, I felt Buckley’s throwing McCarthy under the bus was rather asinine as well. Sure, McCarthy had his own personal issues. But were those issues worth walking McCarthy out on a damn tree limb and sawing the thing off? I hardly think so. Seeing the mess were now with this socialist President, perhaps McCarthy was not so crazy after all.

The Bottom Line is this: My issue is not with John Henke personally, it is with what he wants to accomplish; a sort of Political “Thought Police” by financial means. That my friends is a dangerous game and one that we on the right should not play, at all.

YES! Political experts see double digit losses for Democrats in 2010 elections!

This is such a good thing to hear…:

After an August recess marked by raucous town halls, troubling polling data and widespread anecdotal evidence of a volatile electorate, the small universe of political analysts who closely follow House races is predicting moderate to heavy Democratic losses in 2010.

Some of the most prominent and respected handicappers can now envision an election in which Democrats suffer double-digit losses in the House — not enough to provide the 40 seats necessary to return the GOP to power but enough to put them within striking distance.

Top political analyst Charlie Cook, in a special August 20 update to subscribers, wrote that “the situation this summer has slipped completely out of control for President Obama and congressional Democrats.”

“Many veteran congressional election watchers, including Democratic ones, report an eerie sense of déjà vu, with a consensus forming that the chances of Democratic losses going higher than 20 seats is just as good as the chances of Democratic losses going lower than 20 seats,” he wrote.

At the mid-August Netroots Nation convention, Nate Silver, a Democratic analyst whose uncannily accurate, stat-driven predictions have made his website FiveThirtyEight.com a must read among political junkies, predicted that Republicans will win between 20 and 50 seats next year. He further alarmed an audience of progressive activists by arguing that the GOP has between a 25 and 33 percent chance of winning back control of the House.

via Experts see double-digit Dem losses – Josh Kraushaar – POLITICO.com.

This reason why this is such a good thing is this; because of this, I believe that the Democrats will abandon the idea of Nationalized Healthcare. The reason why these numbers are so high is this; The Democrats, as I have written many times before, have overreached horribly after the 2008 election. They saw this economic crisis and the abject failure of the Bush Administration, as a chance to push through their progressive agenda. There was one thing, however, that the Democrats did not plan on; resistance. That would be the resistance from the 42% of Americans that voted for John McCain.

These number simply prove what I have believed all along. That not everyone in America is lockstep with the progressive wing of the Democratic Party; and their Identity Politics, Post Racial-Racialism, and the general Chicago style of politics that this Presidential Administration’s modus operandi.

For Republicans, this is their chance, put seeing their spokespersons are Joe the Plumber and Sarah Palin. I do not expect much out of them; at least not in 2010.

Others:    Right Wing Nut HouseDon Surber, Wake up America, Sister Toldjah, Another Black Conservative, Flopping Aces, American PowerAnd So it Goes in Shreveport, The Corner on National …

Well, it is nice to know that the UAE has our backs… I think

Although, many people do not know this or do not want to hear it. But much of the financing for 9/11 came out of the UAE.

Anyhow, there’s this:

The United Arab Emirates has seized a ship carrying North Korean-manufactured munitions, detonators, explosives and rocket-propelled grenades bound for Iran in violation of United Nations sanctions, diplomats said.

The UAE two weeks ago notified the UN Security Council of the seizure, according to the diplomats, who spoke on condition they aren’t named because the communication hasn’t been made public. They said the ship, owned by an Australian subsidiary of a French company and sailing under a Bahamian flag, was carrying 10 containers of arms disguised as oil equipment.

The council committee that monitors enforcement of UN sanctions against North Korea wrote letters to Iran and the government in Pyongyang asking for explanations of the violation, and one to the UAE expressing appreciation for the cooperation, the envoys said. No response has been received and the UAE has unloaded the cargo, they said.

The UAE and Iranian missions to the UN didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment. The Financial Times reported the weapons seizure earlier today.

via UAE Seizes North Korean Weapons Shipment to Iran (Update2) – Bloomberg.com.

This is what happens when you do the whole “Carrot and Stick” approach to countries like North Korea and Iran. They simply find ways to go around you.  I really believe that the United Nations really needs to rethink their strategy with Iran. Because it is obvious to this Conservative writer, that Iran has no intention of abiding by the rules.  I am not saying that it is time for war with Iran; not at all. At least not with our Country leading the charge. Because, in case anyone has not noticed, We are a bit occupied ourselves. I believe some of the other countries in that region need to step up and put a stop to this nonsense, once and for all.

Blackfive asks some very important questions:

Now this brings up all kinds of questions. How did the UAE find out? Did we know? Did we tell them? Inquiring minds want to know. Also how does this affect our global tyrant outreach project? Clenched? Unclenched? Hmmm

Those are some good questions. I would also like to know, who tipped off the Financial Times people? I also wonder, what will our feckless fearless leader’s next move will be? Because you know good and well that the Liberal base is not going to approve of him going into Iran or North Korea; even if Obama ordered a small support group to go in and assist any other countries that wanted to invade either Country, the base would totally turn on him. I mean, hell, the left is desperately wanting to pull us out of Afghanistan and Iraq; before the job is even done. They have been trying to do that for years. Do you think they would just sit idly by and allow President Obama to take us into another Military conflict? I do not think so. I mean, “Hope and Change” can only get a man so far.  Especially when it comes to the very far left. I mean, they’re already calling Obama a fascist in some quarters of the left as it is already.

Either way this is going to be a very interesting development and it will be interesting to see how Obama handles the situation and it will be interesting to see how the far socialist/liberal Left reacts to Obama’s actions.  I also would like to see what the Liberal Media’s reaction will be to this story and to how Obama reacts to it as well; will they be just as critical to Obama as they were Bush? or will they continue to give Obama the “free ride” that they have given him so far? It should be very interesting.

Updated! It has started: Black Virginia Police Officer threatens to arrest White Man if he holds up Anti-Obama sign Officer Cheeks works for the SCHOOL and NOT the City Police!

…..and they said that this President would be post-racial… I call BS!

The Video: (Via HotAir)

There is a word that comes to mind to describe this fat turd. But I will not utter it here.

I knew this was coming. I just knew it.

The one the really got me was the exchange of:

Man: “This is America!”

Black Cop: “It ain’t no more, okay?”

Folks, something is seriously wrong...

BIG HUGE UPDATE! EVERYONE PLEASE READ THIS!

I contacted the Fairfield County Police in Virginia and I received this reply:

Wesley Cheeks is NOT a Fairfax County police officer; he is a security
officer employed by the Fairfax County Public Schools. You may go to
http://www.fcps.edu to contact the School’s Department of Communication
and Community Outreach concerning this matter. They may also be reached
by phone at 571-423-1200.

Thank you.

Patti Smylie
Administrative Assistant to Chief Rohrer
Fairfax County Police Department

So, everyone STOP calling the local police down there and call the School and complain!

Here’s the correct dept. to contact:

8115 Gatehouse Road
Suite 5100
Falls Church, VA 22042
Phone: 571.423.1200

Barbara Hunter
Assistant Superintendent

Remember, Be civil, NO THREATS! Just ask if they know about the incident and if they have seen the video. Click o Barbara’s name to e-mail her.

Jack Hunter makes a good point

At one point, I had written that I was not going to publish this man’s videos anymore; and I do not make a habit of it. His comment about our Military over on The American Conservative‘s Blog called “Post Right” was the end for me.

However, this video does make a good point and so, I will post it; with a comment at the end.

(Source)

I posted this, because I happen to agree with Jack’s stance on progressive policy on economics. But because I am “Fair and Balanced”, I will tell you, what others will not about the “Paleo-Conservative” or the “Taft” wing of the Republican Party as it is called by some. If it were left to these guys; such as Jack Hunter and his two hero-like personalities like Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul —- America would have never went to war with Germany, at all. Hitler would have allowed to exterminate the Jews. Something that I am told Pat Buchanan has said that he wished happened, when he was around some friends once; which goes back to the old school catholic hatred of the Jews and their religion. Further more, most people of the Paleo-Conservative strand believe that Abraham Lincoln was a traitor. Not only to the White Man; but also to the South for the way he conducted the Civil War. Which Jack claims was not about race. (Wink Wink) But rather about Centralized Government.

So, while Jack might be correct about his thesis on the economic policy; his association with the bigoted “Old Right” is to be noted and for this, I feel, his credentials are marred.

News from a Fundamental Baptist Perspective

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FRIDAY CHURCH NEWS NOTES

August 28, 2009, Volume 10, Issue 35

The Friday Church News Notes is designed for use in churches and is published by Way of Life Literature’s Fundamental Baptist Information Service. Unless otherwise stated, the Notes are written by David Cloud. Of necessity we quote from a wide variety of sources, but this does not imply an endorsement. For instructions on how to unsubscribe to this list or to change mailing addresses, please consult the information paragraph at the end.

LUTHERANS ALLOW HOMOSEXUAL PASTORS (Friday Church News Notes, August 28, 2009, www.wayoflife.org fbns@wayoflife.org, 866-295-4143) – On August 21, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America voted to allow “gays and lesbians in committed relationships to serve as clergy.” Moments after the vote, Mark Hanson, the Presiding Bishop of the ELCA, pleaded for unity, saying, “It would be tragic if we walked away from one another” (“Lutheran Gay Clergy Vote,” AP, Aug. 22, 2009). In fact, it is tragic that those who claim to believe the Bible are yoked together in the same denomination with those who obviously do not (Romans 16:17). Many mainstream media reports depict the ELCA as a fairly conservative denomination, but in fact it has been riddled with theological modernism and unbelief since its inception. J. Kincaid Smith, an ELCA pastor who attended Hamma School of Theology in the Lutheran Church in America, one of the denominations that merged to form the ELCA in 1988, testified, “When I graduated in 1973, to the best of my knowledge, none of my classmates, nor I, believed in any of the miraculous element in the Bible, in anything supernatural, no six day creation, that Adam and Eve were real historical people, that God really spoke to people, the flood with Noah and the Ark, the Red Sea parting. We believed that no Old Testament Scriptures foretold of Jesus of Nazareth, that Jesus was not anticipated in the Old Testament. No virgin birth” (Christian News, April 29, 1985).

MASS MURDERER CHEERED IN LYBIA (Friday Church News Notes, August 28, 2009, www.wayoflife.org fbns@wayoflife.org, 866-295-4143) – The Islamic mass murderer who was found guilty of bombing Pan Am flight 103 in 1988, killing 270 people when it crashed in Lockerbie, Scotland, was given a hero’s welcome at the Tripoli airport in Libya when he arrived there on August 21 (“Lockerbie Bomber Release,” AOL News, Aug. 21, 2009). Thousands cheered Abdel Baset al-Megrahi, who was released from prison in Scotland after only eight years on grounds of “compassion.” He is said to be dying with cancer. Libya’s president, Gadhafi, met with al-Megrahi personally and hugged him. It is obvious that many of Libya’s citizens believe that destroying a commercial jetliner full of people is a glorious Islamic act, worthy of the highest praise.

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Liberals Tan Andrew Breitbart's Ass over his Twitter Stupidity

….and you know what? He deserves every god damned minute of it.

As I wrote on here last night my issues with Ted Kennedy were never personal, only of a political and policy nature.  My postings always reflected that; I never took shots at him personally. I simply called him out, when I felt he was being dishonest. Of course, I did it in my traditionally condescending manner. Hey, I am a Conservative Blogger; condescension and being a general asshole are expected. But, I never made it personal. I have towards others in the past and I have deeply regretted it.  This is why I follow a rule of conduct; attack the policy, not the person, mock gently, but know the line and never cross it.

Andrew Breitbart crossed it early Wednesday morning, when the news of Ted Kennedy’s passing hit. You can view and sampling of his rather idiotic and obnoxious nonsense by going Here, Here, Here, Here, Here, and Here. In fact, you can view this obnoxious idiot’s account by hovering over this link here.

Now some of you might be shocked and amazed that I would come out and condemn someone like Andrew for saying stuff like this. Well, allow me to explain as to why. I believe in freedom of speech; I really do. But, I also believe in responsibility of that freedom as well. Now, do I believe that the so-called “Thought Police” should scoop up Mr. BreitBart and send him off to a reeducation camp or something silly like that? Of course not.  As a libertarian-minded Conservative; I believe in a free market approach to freedom of speech. I believe in letting the free market decide if it wants to be associated with obnoxious speech. If Andrew Breitbart wants to speak his mind about Ted Kennedy; fine, let him do so. But if someone is offended by his speech, they have the absolute right to lodge a complaint to Mr. Breitbart’s advertisers and inform them, that they do not intend to purchase their products, if they continue to sponsor this man’s website.

I believe it would be also fair to point out, that Mr. Breitbart did not use his website to express his opinion of Kennedy. He used the social network Twitter. Which is a very public service, unless you elect to make your updates private. Something that no one hardly ever does. But then again, not many people go around acting foolish like this either.

Again, In closing, I believe that Mr. BreitBart has the right to say what he wishes. That is the core ideal of freedom; however, Mr. Breitbart should be prepared to handle the criticism and the consequences, including the loss of advertisers; for expressing his opinions.

Living proof that Socialist Democrat Liberals are crazy

Man, the crazies are in force today man! WOW! 😮

Both of these stories come via the Jawa Report, Which I happened to spot over at HotAir’s Headline Section.

The first comes via the Austin-American Statesman:

A Texas woman faces trial this month in Austin on charges she threatened to kill a government informant who infiltrated an Austin-based group that planned to bomb the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minn., last fall.

Katyanne Marie Kibby
Katyanne Marie Kibby

Katyanne Marie Kibby, 25, was indicted in June by a federal grand jury in Austin. She is accused of retaliating against Brandon Darby, the community activist-turned-informant who helped federal prosecutors win convictions against Bradley Neal Crowder, 24, and David Guy McKay, 23.

Prosecutors say the e-mail threat was made Jan. 10. That was two days after Crowder reached a plea bargain with federal prosecutors in Minneapolis for his role in the plot to build Molotov cocktails and attack the GOP convention in September 2008.

Crowder and McKay were part of a group of activists that had gone to the Twin Cities to take part in street demonstrations. The FBI had infiltrated the group with Darby. Crowder and McKay built eight of the gasoline firebombs but didn’t use them, a fact law enforcement officials credited to Darby.

Members of the Austin protest community heaped scorn on Darby, saying he had betrayed longtime friends and colleagues.

I wonder, can they charge her for being butt damn ugly, and just plain stupid?? Good Lord. 🙄

Not to be outdone, there’s this idiot here:

Via St. Louis Today.com: (H/T Gateway Pundit)

A federal search warrant obtained by the Post-Dispatch connects a former
Democratic campaign strategist to a Clayton bombing last year that seriously
injured an attorney.

Milton H. "Skip" Ohlsen III
Milton H. "Skip" Ohlsen III

About two months after the October bombing, federal law enforcement officials
searched the downtown loft of Milton H. “Skip” Ohlsen III, seeking “evidence
related to the planning, execution, and/or cover-up of the bombing in Clayton,
Missouri, on October 16, 2008.” Ohlsen in recent weeks has been at the center
of a swirling political scandal that is threatening the political careers of at
least two Missouri Democratic legislators.

The Clayton bombing injured attorney John L. Gillis of the Armstrong Teasdale
firm. But investigators now believe Gillis was not the intended target of the
bomb that exploded next to his car in the parking garage at 190 Carondelet
Plaza.

Instead, as the Post-Dispatch first reported Monday evening on STLtoday.com,
authorities suspect the bomb was intended for Richard J. Eisen, a former Husch
Blackwell Sanders attorney. Eisen has led legal battles against Ohlsen and had
an office in the Clayton building that was bombed.

Eisen, now an attorney at Growe, Eisen, Karlen, Eilerts & Ruth, LLC,
represented Ohlsen’s ex-wife, Michelle, in a divorce that was filed in December
2007. He also represented a Maryland Heights man who obtained a temporary
restraining order against Ohlsen.

Eisen and Gillis had similar cars — both owned an Acura TL — and they parked
one floor apart in the garage, near the Ritz-Carlton Hotel.

Eisen, a former president of the St. Louis County Bar Association, said Monday
that authorities had not told him that he was the intended target of the
bombing. “I can tell you that no member of any law enforcement agency has ever
indicated that to me,” he said.

The Clayton bombing has been one of the area’s most prominent unsolved cases.
Police had sought the public’s help by releasing a security video showing a man
carrying balloons and a package into the parking garage and later leaving
without them. He was hooded and wearing a bright poncho, and his face was
obscured by the balloons. They said they believed the bomb was in the package.

Ohlsen was arrested on federal fraud and firearms charges on Dec. 18, 2008, in
an unrelated case, according to federal court records.

FBI agents searched Ohlsen’s downtown loft twice after that, documents show. On
Friday, Dec. 19, 2008, they showed up looking for firearms, bullets and
financial documents. They returned on Dec. 22, seeking evidence relating to the
Clayton bombing, according to court documents obtained by the Post-Dispatch.

It is not unusual for investigators to obtain a new search warrant to cover
items spotted during a search but not covered by the original warrant, to
prevent a defense lawyer from challenging them in court.

Ohlsen’s attorney, Paul D’Agrosa, declined to comment on any connection between
his client and the bombing investigation.

Now, have you heard any of this in the mainstream liberal owned, operated and financed media? (MSNBC, CNN, NYT, Washington Post and ect…) No, and you will not either, least they tarnish that big image of the Democratic Party being the party of morals, justice and integrity.

Now before anyone tries to tell me that Republicans and Republican-related people have done the same stuff. Please, save your breath. I know that they have, and I have blogged about it on here before. Also, before anyone comes around waving a Timothy McVeigh sign. I give you this that proves that McVeigh was not only NOT a Christian, nor a Conservative, but rather an Militant Extremist, of who’s actions would never be considered Conservative in any sense of the word.

(Source)

INTRODUCTION

It appears that there are some out there who have asserted the claim that the Oklahoma City Bomber Timothy McVeigh was a Christian or at the least, a self-professed Christian.  This claim sadly enough, had been used in different arguments for varying ranges of issues.

For instance, Minister Louis Farrakhan, head of the Nation of Islam (NOI) in a speech at a Chicago mosque referred to how the mass media did not state that terrorist Timothy McVeigh was a Christian.

Farrakhan is quoted by Cybercast News Service (CNS) as saying:

“Even though his crime was the most horrific committed up until that time, no one said Christian Timothy McVeigh, they just said Timothy McVeigh.”(SEE NOTE 1)

The writer of this article also recalls that right after September 11th, other Islamic leaders besides Farrakhan have made the same claim about McVeigh being a “Christian”.  Mike Tyson was an example of a prominent Muslim who also referred to McVeigh as a Christian after the 9/11 incident.

DAN BARKER ASSERTION IN PARTICULAR

Interestingly enough, Muslims were not the only one who has been saying this.  The atheist Dan Barker has been as well.  In a particular editorial in “Freethought Today”, that serves as the regular newspaper publication of Freedom From Religion Foundation (the organization Dan Barker belongs to), they had a piece titled “Christian Terrorism In Oklahoma City”. (See NOTE 2)

Dan Barker asks rhetorically:

Why is no one calling the Oklahoma City bombing suspects ‘Christian terrorists’?”(SEE NOTE 3)

The heart of the matter to Barker’s essay was the claim that McVeigh was in his understanding, a Christian. (SEE NOTE 4) It was to him, something that was obvious yet people tried to “see” God into the tragedy in a positive light instead:

Ignoring the obvious religious connections here, everyone seems eager to turn this tragedy into an opportunity to acknowledge a deity.”

He then takes the moment to attack Christianity and the concept of belief in God from the fulcrum that the Oklahoma City Bomber was a “Christian” even having the audacity to go on and blame Christianity for the bombing:

“Since Christianity has a history of bloody persecution, wouldn’t it make more sense for Freeh to identify religion as the culprit here?

Though Barker went tangent into other unrelated areas in his essay, we would be focusing this article more narrowly to the issue that is the fulcrum, the crux of his essay: Was Timothy Mc McVeigh a Christian?

NO WAY, MCVEIGH

How anyone could say McVeigh was a Christian is beyond this writer’s mind.  His action and deeds definitely does not reflect that of a virtuous believer.  Even more, there has not been any quotation of the Oklahoma City Bomber professing any Christian faith.  Barker does not quote a single reference to back his allegation.  On the contrary we see that there is documentation that he did not accept the Christian faith.

In an article by United Kingdom’s “The Guardian” about McVeigh’s execution, we find this reference:

In his letter, McVeigh said he was an agnostic but that he would “improvise, adapt and overcome”, if it turned out there was an afterlife. “If I’m going to hell,” he wrote, “I’m gonna have a lot of company.” His body is to be cremated and his ashes scattered in a secret location.”(SEE NOTE 5)

Note the above that McVeigh “said he was an agnostic” but not only that, but that he was defiant about hell itself and remain unrepentant.  Then we also find the same statement that he was an agnostic admitted by Lou Michel during a cyber interview with CNN.  Lou Michel spent hours interviewing McVeigh in writing a book titled, “American Terrorist: Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City Bombing”.  Michel’s words are enlightening:

Lou Michel: McVeigh is agnostic. He doesn’t believe in God, but he won’t rule out the possibility. I asked him, ‘What if there is a heaven and hell?’

He said that once he crosses over the line from life to death, if there is something on the other side, he will — and this is using his military jargon – ‘adapt, improvise, and overcome.’ Death to him is all part of the adventure.”(SEE NOTE 6)

CONCLUSION

If McVeigh never admitted to being a Christian but rather stated that he was an agnostic, how did Dan Barker and others come to this false conclusion?  It appears that at least in Barker’s case, he desires to hijack this false assertion to take the opportunity to slander Christianity.  Whatever is the case, God would be the ultimate Judge and its this author’s prayer that Barker and others like him repent to knowing knowledge of Jesus as Lord and Savior.

–Jimmy Li

So much for that argument. The fact is, that Socialist Liberals will stop at nothing to obtain their means. Including breaking the law.