Zo Breaks it down about Christmas, and I answer him

Well, really, I just present an argument from a Fundamentalist Baptist stance.

First off, Zo’s video:

Some very funny stuff in that video…

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Okay, this is something that a Baptist Pastor sent to me. Please be advised, I might not agree with ALL of this, but they do have a good point…

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Jer 10:2 KJV – Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

Jer 10:3 KJV – For the customs of the people [are] vain: for [one] cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

Jer 10:4 KJV – They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

Please watch the videos and read this email I made it as short as I could and still maintain the information needed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo8M0fJxXjA

Christmas is a pagan evil demonic holiday have nothing to do with it. It is not the Birthday of Jesus Christ. And pastors and church elders, men of faith who are head of their families, God will hold you responsible to teach what is holy. Remain separate from the ways of the world. Do not conform to the doctrine of the Nicolaitan’s God has told us he hates those that do.

Rev 2:6 KJV – But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.

Rev 2:14 KJV – But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

Rev 2:15 KJV – So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.

Nicolaitans:

nik-o-la’-i-tanz Nikolaitai):
1. The Sect:
A Christian, by name, sect or party of evil influence in early Christianity, especially in the 7 churches of Asia. Their practices were strongly condemned by John, who praised the church in Ephesus for “hating their works” (Rev 2:6), and blamed the church in Pergamum for accepting in some measure their teaching (Rev 2:15).

2. References:
Reference to Nicolaitans is frequent in post-apostolic literature (writings that were written by the churches shortly after the apostils died). According to Irenaeus (Adv. Haer., i.26,3; iii.10,7), followed by Hippolytus (Philos., vii.36), the Nicolaitans are referenced to their Gnostic tendencies regarding the eating of meats offered to idols and the participation in heathen public festivals and holidays.

3. Nicolaitan Controversy:
The problem underlying the Nicolaitan controversy concerned the whole relation of Christianity to paganism and their usages of Festival and holiday pagan traditions. The Nicolaitans disobeyed the command issued to the Gentile churches, by the apostolic council held at Jerusalem in 49-50 AD, that they should refrain from the eating of “things sacrificed to idols” (Acts 15:29).

Act 15:27 KJV – We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell [you] the same things by mouth.

Act 15:28 KJV – For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;

Act 15:29 KJV – That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Such a restriction, though seemingly hard, in that it prevented the Christian communities from joining in public festivals, and so brought upon them suspicion and dislike, was yet necessary to prevent a return to a pagan laxity of morals. To this danger the Nicolaitans were themselves a glaring witness, and therefore John was justified in condemning them. In writing to the Corinthians, Paul gives warning against the same evil practices, basing his arguments on consideration for the weaker brethren (compare 1 Cor 8).

1Cr 8:10 KJV – For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol’s temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;

1Cr 8:11 KJV – And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?

1Cr 8:12 KJV – But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.

4. Nicolaitan the Origin of the Name:

The Pagan Nicolaitan cult comes from the name of the false god they worshiped Nicolas (conqueror of the people) it is the Greek name for the Hebrew name Balsam (“destroyer of the people,” bela’ ‘am); as we find both the Hebrew and Greek names refer to the same false god. Other notable names for this false god are Abaddon, Apollyon; Satan, and Devil. Nicolas is a specific symbolical name given to this false god to represent his role as the god of holidays or feasting and festivals. A Hebrew interpretation of the root meaning of the name is nikola, meaning “let us eat”. Nicolas introduced a false freedom into the Christian Church, i.e. licentiousness (Lacking or ignoring moral discipline. Having no regard for the laws)

Such seducers are described as followers of Balsam or Balaam (“the son of Bosor”, “son of carnality”: bosor means “flesh”). They persuade many Christians to partake in pagan holidays. Many even indulge in “eating idol meats,”; some even join in the “fornication” of the holidays, they do and teach these things as permitted by Christ’s “law of grace”. The Nicolaitans combined evil “deeds” which Jesus “hates” with evil “doctrine.”, also in 2 Peter 2:12-13; 2 Peter 2:15-17

2Pe 2:1 KJV – But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

2Pe 2:12 KJV – But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

2Pe 2:13 KJV – And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, [as] they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots [they are] and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;

2Pe 2:14 KJV – Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:

2Pe 2:15 KJV – Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam [the son] of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;

2Pe 2:16 KJV – But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man’s voice forbad the madness of the prophet.

2Pe 2:17 KJV – These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.

The Nicolaitans are in part responsible (together with the Catholic Church) for “Christianity’s” acceptance of Christmas, Easter, Halloween and other unbiblical practices. More importantly, Nicolaitanism, representative of a much broader philosophy, can be blamed for the organized and systematic removal of God’s laws as a central pillar of the Christian way of life. Replaced by a “law of grace” which teaches to not bother following or even learning God’s law as they no longer apply.

5. St Nicolas: the Origin of the Christmas Holiday

The corrupt Catholic Church (the Mystery Babylon, the Great Whore – not covered in this email but Biblically true) in a attempt at conquering the world’s religions and bring about a world religion, as it does with all false gods and holidays of the pagans around the world, merged the pagan rituals with their church. They selected a person from their church with the name Nicolas and made him a saint. Creating St. Nicolas, allowing pagans to have their holiday for the false god Nicolas, only now people would start calling him St. Nicolas. Further they moved the day from the Winter Solstice (the 21^st or 22^nd) to the 24^th, to appease those pagans who refused to merge the holidays, and to prevent offending those Christians who were aware of the pagan Winter Solstice Holiday by simple saying it was a different holiday on a different day. Then to make it appear Christian in origin they announced it was the birthday of Jesus (who was clearly not born in December according to the Bible, but his birthday is obscure enough that only those who studied the bible would know this.)

December 21/22 — Winter Solstice – Yule (The Catholic Church moved the day to the 24^th and called it Christmas)

The sun is at its nadir, the year’s longest night. Pagans internalize and synthesize the outward-directed activities of the previous summer months. Some hold a Festival of Lights to commemorate the “mother goddess” (called the queen of heaven in the Bible – This is why the Catholic Church worships Mary as the mother goddess) as giving birth to the “sun god”. Others celebrate the victory of the “Lord of Light” (in the Bible we know him as Lucifer the light bearer) over the darkness as the turning point from which the days will lengthen. The name “Yule” derives from the Norse word for “wheel” (as in the “Wheel of Time” which turns and spins the pattern of the universe – this is where the terms “the universe will sort it out” and “I will leave it up to the universe” comes from ), and many Pagan customs (like those of the Christmas holiday) derive from Norse and Celtic Pagan practices most notable of course is Nicolas or Santa Clause (see video above)

the Yule log – A Yule log, is a large log which is burned in the hearth as a part of traditional Pagan Yule (or Christmas) celebrations. The Yule log originates from a custom amongst the Germanic peoples in tribute to the god Thor associated with Yule. Thor was associated with oak trees, such as Thor’s Oak.
the Christmas tree (or Yule tree) – as a evergreen tree does not die (loose its leaves in winter) placing one in your home during this time of year offers protection from death and misfortune to the household Christmas trees used to be hung upside from the ceiling beams (this belief can still be seen sometimes year round by the placing of a pine tree on the top of skyscrapers in many US cities)
Christmas tree ornaments – pagans would also place magic talismans on the tree to provide additional magical protection to the household
the custom of Wassailing – Here We Come A-Wassailing (or Here We Come A-Caroling) is a Christmas carol and New Years song. It refers to the ‘wassail’, an alcoholic drink (typically mulled cider) that would be used in ritualistic worship assembly ceremonies of the pagans. The wassail party passes around a bundle of ash sticks, twigs or branches—the ashen faggot—bound with green ash withies, which is then placed onto the fire. As each binding bursts, the watchers toast it with a drink. The unmarried women each choosing a withy, and the first one whose tie snapped would be married the next year. When the bindings have all burst and the bundle has fallen loose, each person who plans to host the festivities next year takes one of the half-burned ash sticks and saves it until the following Christmas, when it will go in the centre of their own ashen faggot. Pagans believe that not burning the ashen faggot in your house brought bad luck, or that having an ashen faggot in the house kept the Devil away. Wiccans believe the ash tree has magical associations: perhaps the most important is the Yggdrasil of Norse mythology, also known as the World Ash Tree. Or World Tree
the Yule Ham – A Christmas Ham or Yule Ham (Ham is meat sacrificed to a idol and should never be eaten by Christians during the holiday season) is a traditional dish associated with modern Christmas, Yule. The tradition is from the Norse as a tribute to the god Freyr who is associated with boars, harvest and fertility.
and many others I only provided a few for a understanding.

As Christians the Bible tells us to remain separate from the pagan traditions and as such we should never place a Christmas tree in or around our House, we should never place up Christmas lights in any form, we should never teach our children of St. Nicolas or Santa Clause if we do so we are cursing them. No Christmas Caroling, No Yule log, No elves (which are demons), No means No, Obey God’s Laws.

Rom 12:2 KJV – And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

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Again, I do agree with some of that. I personally do not get into the Holiday, as I celebrate Christ in my heart daily.

Guest Voice: Chuck Baldwin: The Birth Of Christ And The Birth Of America Are Linked

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As we approach the celebration of Christ’s birth, I am reminded of the wordsof John Quincy Adams. On July 4, 1837, he spoke these words:

“Why is it that, next to the birthday of the Savior of the world, your most joyous and most venerated festival returns on this day? … Is it not that, in the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior? That it forms a leading event in the progress of the Gospel dispensation? Is it not that the Declaration of Independence first organized the social compact on the foundation of the Redeemer’s mission upon earth. That it laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity, and gave to the world the first irrevocable pledge of the fulfillment of the prophecies announced directly from Heaven at the birth of the Savior and predicted by the greatest of the Hebrew prophets six hundred years before?”

Adams was exactly right: America’s birth is directly linked to the birth of our Savior. In fact, the United States of America is the only nation established by Christian people, upon Biblical principles, and dedicated to the purpose of religious liberty. This truth is easily observed within America’s earliest history.

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Video: Robert Welch 'Solutions to problems in the Government'

The last time I posted anything related to the John Birch Society on this Blog; my hits just about went off the charts. My servers had smoke rolling out of them and I could have sworn that I heard that said server yelping a bit in agony. Okay, the second part was not true. Nevertheless, there were a good deal of people, that were very highly interested in that video; and this was before this blog really even took off.

This is Robert Welch, he was the founder of the John Birch Society. Contrary to what people like, Rachel Maddow might think; the JBS is not what the liberals and some Conservatives like to think that it is. Here is Mr. Welch giving a speech in 1974 telling of the goals of the Society. Now, honestly, where have you heard this stuff before? If you said Ron Paul in 2008, you get a gold star, if you say the majority of Conservatives TODAY; you get another big gold star. As old as this video is; its contents are timely, considering the mess that we are in today.

The second group of videos are a reposting of some videos that I have posted here before and a few new ones. The first is the actual story John Birch, the second is the founder of the JBS giving a outline of what the JBS is truly all about. The rest are various related to the subject at hand. Some are dated, some, are quite timely.

Democrats pass another hurdle towards nationalized healthcare

I really do not have much to add to this story, as I have written on it before and my personal feelings are well known. I will say this; the Democrats own this Healthcare debate now. The democrats have successfully rammed this bill down the throat of the American people —- and now they own it. I mean, voting at 1:00a.m., to insure its passage. It is a disgrace and the Democrats now own it. That means, no more blaming Bush, no more blaming Republicans, No more calling us who opposed this idiotic idea Racists, Tea Baggers, and whatever else the socialists call us. This is their baby now; we made our voices heard and they ignored us, and now, they own it.

They own it and they will own it come 2010 and 2012, they also will own it, when the bill goes into effect in 2014 and Medicare cuts begin and the folks begin to complain. When the folks begin to complain, we that opposed it will have one thing to say. You voted for that socialist President and Congress; now deal with the consequences!

Now, do I believe it will actually make it to the President’s desk? I have no idea, at this point. Nevertheless, it looks like it might. If it does, we, (meaning us bloggers) will continue to Blog against the socialist agenda of the President and this Congress. One can always hope that it will not or even Pray, if that is what you believe in. But at this point, I think what we as Conservatives and “Right of center” types, can do at this point is get our houses in order and stand behind those who are running on the Republican ticket and come 2010 do that which will stop the socialist nonsense; and that is vote.

Obama Police State? -Black D.C. Cop pulls a Gun, at people who pelted his hummer with Snowballs

This comes via Reason TV: (H/T Gateway Pundit)

Related Via View From the Right:

Tina writes:

I am a simple school bus driver. Here is a conversation I heard. Last year we had an Iranian girl who loudly proclaimed, when the school was in its Patriotic Songs Celebration (“This Land Is Your Land,” etc.): “I am not an American, I am a Muslim.”
This was done on the bus so all could hear.
This is what they feel, deep down. They don’t think like us, they lie without compunction, they want us dead or out of the way, because they are not fools like the Propositional Nationalists.
They know what a country really is; it is its land and resources. As long as we are here, we’re in their way.
I am stunned at the stupidity of our leaders. Either they go to war in a place like Kosovo and learn nothing about it and why it became the way it did, or they are biding their time until full scale civil war breaks out in the USA, so martial law can be enforced and their power grows exponentially.
Personally, I think the latter will be the case.

When will Americans rise up?

Update: Oops! My bad, it was a D.C. cop, not Chicago Cop. My Apologies to the Chicago Police Dept.

Update #2: Admittedly, these people were wrong for tossing snowballs at a car, but pulling a gun? That’s a bit extreme. Also, calling a Police Officer a “Pig” is very disrespectful. But, again, pulling a gun like this was wrong.

Tragic News: Brittany Murphy has died

This is such a tragic story and one that I wish handle with as much respect and sensitivity as I can….

The Sad Story from TMZ:

Brittany Murphy died early this morning after she went into full cardiac arrest and could not be revived, multiple sources tell TMZ.
She was 32.
A 911 call was made at 8:00 AM from a home in Los Angeles that is listed as belonging to her husband, Simon Monjack, the Los Angeles City Fire Department tells TMZ.

This hits home. I am 37; that is much too young to die.

From her Wikipedia Entry:

She was raised a Baptist and later became a non-denominational Christian.

I also happened to notice this:

445px-Brittanymurphynavy — Murphy performs for the crew during a United Services Organization (USO) show aboard USS Nimitz on June 19, 2003.

She was, I would assume, at least someone who thought much of our Military.

May God be with her husband and with her family.

May Brittany rest in peace in the arms of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Update: Understandably, This is a huge story in the celebrity Blogosphere. Click here to read the round up at WeSmirch, which is Memeorandum‘s sister site.

Quote of the Day

The real entitlements are never mentioned. The “defense” budget is an entitlement for the military-security complex about which President Eisenhower warned us 50 years ago. A person has to be crazy to believe that the United States, “the world’s only superpower,” protected by oceans on its East and West and by puppet states on its North and South, needs a “defense” budget larger than the military spending of the rest of the world combined.
The military budget is nothing but an entitlement for the military-security complex. To hide this fact, the entitlement is disguised as protection against “enemies” and passed through the Pentagon.
I say cut out the middleman and simply allocate a percentage of the federal budget to the military-security complex. This way we won’t have to concoct reasons for invading other countries and go to war in order for the military-security complex to get its entitlement. It would be a lot cheaper just to give them the money outright, and it would save a lot of lives and grief at home and abroad.
The U.S. invasion of Iraq had nothing whatsoever to do with American national interests. It had to do with armaments profits and with eliminating an obstacle to Israeli territorial expansion. The cost of the war, aside from the $3 trillion, was over 4,000 dead Americans, over 30,000 wounded and maimed Americans, tens of thousands of broken American marriages and lost careers, 1 million dead Iraqis, 4 million displaced Iraqis and a destroyed country.
All of this was done for the profits of the military-security complex and to make paranoid Israel, armed with 200 nuclear weapons, feel “secure.”
My proposal would make the military-security complex even more wealthym as the companies would get the money without having to produce the weapons. Instead, all the money could go for multimillion dollar bonuses and dividend payouts to shareholders. No one, at home or abroad, would have to be killed, and the taxpayer would be better off.

Hoo Boy: Maryland got HAMMERED with Snow!

You think I got snow? What we got here was mild, compared to what Maryland got for snow.

Head on over to R.S. McCain’s Blog and watch the videos. That is if you can bear to listen to Stacy sing. 😉 Seriously? He sings very good for a guy who smokes like a freight train.

Yeah and hit his tip jar too, and when you’re done, hit mine too.

I would like to get something for the folks for Christmas this year. Even if it something, uh, cheap.

I did install this spiffy new plug in, and if you donate, you get your name on the sidebar of the blog; that why people can know how cool your are and stuff. If it is a huge donation, you may even get a personal phone call and possibly a gift. 🙂

Answering Laurence Vance

I write this piece to answer the libertarian leftist Laurence Vance’s smear piece against me. An article for what it is worth has only brought 143 visitors to my blog, as of this writing. For a man, who is supposedly an authority on all things libertarian; not to mention all things Austrian economics —That my friend is quite amusing, I guess Lew Rockwell and company are legends in their own minds — at best.

I will not sit here and pick apart this entire ridiculous article, which is filled with in inaccuracies about me, who I listen to in talk radio, and all the other silly assumptions that those of the idiotic leftist mentality believe about us, who happen to respect and support our Military. Nevertheless, I will correct this leftist imbecile on some issues.

First off, whom or what I listen to on television: I guess Mr. Vance assumes that Fox News Network in my Television when I am awake. This is a gross fallacy; I only watch Fox News during the daytime; that is, if and when, I decide to turn the blasted thing on. I think I may watch an hour of Television at most, as for during the opinion hour at night, the only person I can stomach on Fox News is, in fact, is Bill O’Reilly. I find Sean Hannity most annoying. Why is that? Because Sean Hannity is a water carrier, a talk points repeater. Quite bluntly, Sean Hannity is an idiotic gasbag — Not to mention he looks and dresses like a closeted gay twink. Sean Hannity is, in fact, a Republican. He spouts Republican talking points — all the while claiming to be a Libertarian. One thing I can tell you, Sean Hannity is not a libertarian, he is not even close. Even I, the most hawkish man in the blogosphere can tell you that. Sean Hannity, to me, represents the Bush-era Fox News. Which has since changed, they stopped with the stupid Bush-era talking points and moved on. Sean Hannity, well, not so much. As for Limbaugh, I respect the man for building such a large business around his, well, ego. However, I do not listen to him on a regular basis, and I will tell you why. Rush Limbaugh strikes me as someone who is love with his own voice — something that I find most highly annoying. Therefore, I do not listen to Rush Limbaugh for that reason. Like anyone else, I catch the clips online when he says or does something remarkably stupid. As for Glenn Beck, Beck peddles paranoia; I am not much into that sort of a thing really. Glenn Back believes that communism is still a real threat. I disagree; I believe that radical socialism is a real threat. However, staunch communism is not and has not been for many years — McCarthy saw to that little feat — and yes there is a big difference between socialism and communism, it even says this on the communist party USA’s website. I ought to know, I did look it up. I do not make a habit of yowling about things that I have no clue about, unlike some in this idiotic political blogosphere.

Therefore, yes, I do watch Bill O’Reilly; why, you ask — Because Bill O’Reilly is fair and yes, balanced. Anyone who actually watches his show knows that Bill does not carry water for the President, ever. Bill also is fair to the President; he does not just hate President Obama, because he is a socialist, much to the chagrin of those on the far right. Bill O’Reilly, like me, has a strong disliking of the socialist far left. This is because we both happen to know that socialism is a threat to the free capitalistic system in this country — this is why I respect the man. Another thing that made me begin to watch him at Bill O’Reilly was the fact that he stopped the policy of shutting people’s microphones off, that disagreed with him. I noticed that he was doing that, and because of this, I refused to watch O’Reilly. As much as I disagree with much of what the left has to say; I do believe that anyone in this Country, as long as they are not planning to overthrow or cause harm to anyone in this Nation, have the right to freedom of speech. This is what got Senator Joseph McCarthy into a great deal of trouble, this is why people like William Buckley Jr. and L. Brent Bozell Jr. (not to be confused with his son, Brent Bozell III) abandoned McCarthy. Because McCarthy wanted to exert thought police on the American people, that which is, sadly, a tactic of the far left. Because O’Reilly abandoned this practice of shutting microphones off, I began to watch him. I also starting watching Fox News and frankly stopped watching CNN and MSNBC because of the blatant partisanship of MSNBC and to a lesser extent CNN. I am all for a diversity of opinion, but when you actually stoop to the level of insulting your viewers, that is when I decided that the bus stopped here and I got off. (So to speak)

Getting back to the subject at hand here, Laurence Vance also accuses me of not being able to separate the Military from the Government. Which is most amusing, because his posting at Lew Rockwell’s Blog; he accuses the Military of occupying Iraq, which was done on the orders of the George W. Bush Administration — Which is something I pointed out in one of my previous postings. Therefore, to Mr. Vance I say — Project much, friend? But then again, when talking to a leftist, one can only expect so much — because to them, up is down and left is right, and the world is a very bizarre place; which is why I tend to avoid reasoning with them. After all, the Bible says; “If any man be ignorant, let them be ignorant” and I do try to follow the Bible as much as I possibly can.

While I am on the subject of Iraq, I feel the need to clear something up. If Mr. Vance or anyone else happens to believe that I am some sort of a Bush-supporting Republican, please be advised that this about as far from the truth that one can get. I did not vote for President George. W. Bush, at all, either time. During that time, I was firmly in the Democratic Party column. This pre-dated my blogging days. I was a left of center — albeit quite the “half-assed left of center,” but I digress. Further, I did support the Iraq war, until the reports came out and the White House admitted that they were wrong about Weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. In fact, it was that little incident, that triggered me to start blogging in February of 2006 as a “left of center” blogger. I will explain the reasons why I switched sides for another posting, as this one is getting very long.

Finally, to answer Mr. Vance’s charge of being a “Red State Fascist” — If loving America and in loving America; knowing that in order to maintain the peace requires strength. If knowing that the United States Military is a valued treasure in this Country and should be highly respected — If wanting to see the United States of America protected from terrorists; both foreign and domestic, makes me a Red State Fascist — I plead the only thing I that I will ever plead to a charge as this — guilty as charged.

May God Bless the United States of America and May God Bless the United States Armed Forces. Further more, Thank God for our Military and Thank God for the privilege of being able to debate those who I disagree with, without the fear of being criminally persecuted for it. We live in a wonderful Nation and I will always defend her from those who would want to slander her. I feel that it is the most that I can do.

Sad News: Oral Roberts dead at age 91

It brings me great sadness to have to write this news story. Nevertheless, it has happened and it is news. It appears the one of founding fathers of television evangelism has died. Oral Roberts has passed away at age 91.

The News comes via Christian Post:

Charismatic Christian leader Dr. Oral Roberts died Tuesday at the age of 91 after slipping and falling in his house over the weekend.
After the fall on Saturday, Roberts was transported to a local hospital in Newport Beach, Calif., where he was treated for broken bones and a “slight case of pneumonia,” according to a report by the ministry on Monday.
Roberts’ PR agency, A. Larry Ross Communications, confirmed the next day that Roberts died Tuesday due to complications from pneumonia and that arrangements for a public memorial service in Tulsa, Okla., are pending and will be announced soon.
“There will be a private family internment,” the agency added.
In a public announcement by the president of Oral Roberts University, which Roberts founded in 1963, Dr. Mark Rutland informed the ORU family that Roberts passed away Tuesday afternoon and asked everyone to join him in prayer for the Roberts family.
“Chancellor Roberts was one of the brilliant spiritual lights of the 20th century and a giant of the Christian faith,” commented Rutland, who was installed earlier this year as ORU’s third president. “At the core of his legacy is a great university that bears his name. Like millions worldwide, I am mourning his passing and am grateful for his visionary life and contributions.”

As many of you know, who this blog regularly; I was for 21 years of my Christian walk, a Pentecostal Christian. I left the Pentecostal movement for good in 2004, due to some of my issue with where they movement was headed as a whole. I can honestly tell you, that I know in my heart that Oral Roberts believed what he preached. Unlike some of my fellow bloggers on the left… and the right; I will not sit here and harp on Pastor Roberts’ failures — after all, he was a moral man and they do fail once and a while. You ask me how I know that Pastor Roberts was sincere. I will tell you, better yet, I will just show you:

11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. 12 Therefore , brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. 13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die : but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live . 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry , Abba, Father. 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God , and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together . 18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. 20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, 21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. – Romans 8:11-21 KJV

Now does this mean that I agree with his belief system? No, it does not. I concluded that the Pentecostal doctrine of the sign gifts being for today as being highly flawed. This was no easy task; it took many hours of study, soul searching and prayer to arrive there. Nevertheless, I would highly remiss if I did not point out the fact that Oral Roberts was, in fact, a minister who is commonly referred to as the ‘Old Line’ Pentecostals. Unlike the modern contemporaries of Roberts, Roberts shunned the title of “Faith Healer”, saying, “God heals — I don’t.” That to me says a library full about his personal character.

I wish to extend my personal heartfelt sympathies to the Roberts family during this most sad time of loss.