Time Magazine tries to explain Pentecostalism…and fails somewhat

Full disclosure: As it says on my “About Me” Page. I am, for all intents and purposes, an ex-Pentecostal Christian. I attended a Pentecostal Church in Southwest Detroit from 1984 till 1993 and then attended several Pentecostal Churches in the Detroit Area from 1997 till April of 2004. I left for several very personal reasons that would take several pages worth of writing to explain. Anyhow…just letting you know. I am now a Independent Fundamental Baptist. I was converted to Christianity in a Baptist Church as 9 year old boy. I left that Church after the Pastor, of whom, I am told; I idolized, ran off with another woman. My mother removed me from that Church’s school and put me in one ran by Pentecostals. Thus my tenure in Pentecostalism.

It seems that Time Magazine is doing a piece on Sarah Palin’s relationship to Pentecostalism. However, in their effort to explain Pentecostalism and Pentecostal Theology, they missed the boat just a bit. I will attempt to correct the errors that I see.

Let me also just say for the outset that I do realize the article is basically an attack piece of Palin’s Religion, seeing the Right is making a huge issue about Obama’s Pastor problems and his relationship to Bill Ayers. I wish not to argue those points.

Anyhow, here’s the places that Time made a few errors, I will underline and bold the places where Time blew it…:

What is Pentecostalism? Pentecostals are named for the feast of Pentecost described in the New Testament Book of Acts as taking place shortly after Jesus’ ascension into heaven. During the feast, his followers were said to have been "filled with the Holy Spirit" and gained the ability to speak in many different languages, or "tongues." The modern Pentecostal movement is relatively new — just over 100 years old — and is usually dated to the Azusa Street Revival that began in Los Angeles in 1906. (The revival was a nine-year series of near continuous worship services that popularized Pentecostal worship and practices.) Pentecostalism can be best understood as a branch within evangelical Protestantism, characterized by a focus on the Holy Spirit and a belief in spiritual gifts, such as healing and speaking in tongues.

On it’s face, this is basically correct, but Pentecostalism can be traced back to a Cultish group of Christians in England that believed that the “Gifts” of the Spirit were for today, they existed around 1400’s, I believe. Also, the Quakers and the Newer Methodists tended to be more open to the “Gifts” of the Spirit as well. The Quakers were called just that, because of their strange way of worshiping. The Pentecostal movement can also trace it’s roots to the Holiness movement that swept through the south in the early 1900’s. Some of those meetings in the south became known as the old “Brush Arbor” Meetings.

Are Pentecostals the same as Charismatics? The Charismatic movement began around the 1960s when some Christians within mainline Protestant and Roman Catholic churches adopted certain Pentecostal beliefs, including the acceptance of gifts — or "charisms" — from the Holy Spirit, like speaking in tongues. While Pentecostals can be broadly described as Charismatic, what distinguishes Charismatics is their desire to remain within their original traditions.

Partially true, partially false. That was when the Pentecostal movement became very popular. The biggest difference between Pentecostals and the Charismatic’s of the 1960’s was the lack of the teaching of separation from the world. Anyone who has ever seen a historic picture of Kathryn Kuhlman knows this to be true. However, in this day of great evangelical compromise the words Charismatic and Pentecostal are nothing more than similar names to describe a particular group; albeit, very misguided group, of Christians.   

How are Pentecostal beliefs different from Evangelical theology? Almost all Pentecostals are also Evangelical, meaning they put great emphasis on the authority of the Bible, believe in spiritual conversion, conceive of a personal relationship with God and follow an imperative to "share the Good News." They also tend to share theological beliefs regarding the End Times with fundamentalists and more conservative Evangelicals. But they also believe in a separate baptism of the Holy Spirit that is subsequent to and distinct from conversion by accepting Christ as the savior and son of God. This baptism is the core doctrine that separates Pentecostals from other Evangelicals, and it is seen as manifested by physical evidence such as healing powers, speaking in tongues and even bodily inhabitation. (Some Pentecostals take "being filled with the Holy Spirit" to mean that the spirit is actually in them and moves their limbs.)

The part I underlined is utterly and totally false. Pentecostals believe that God is still speaking to mankind today and that the Bible is nothing more than a well written guide.  Despite what most Pentecostal Pastors say. Anyone who says that they believe that the “Signs and Wonders” gifts are for today, does not believe that the Bible is the FINAL Authority. The rest is correct factually. In fact, most Pentecostals believe that you can be filled more than once or “refilled”. There were some Pentecostals, like Rev. Finis Jennings Dake who rejected that teaching totally.

Anyhow, while Time magazine did a decent job on explaining Pentecostalism to their Liberal readers. They should have done much more research into the history. Then again, when you’re publishing a hatchet job on a Republican, thoroughness is not exactly on the list.

Some links and books on the subject:

The Strange history of the Pentecostal Church by David Cloud

The Roots of Pentecostalism by David Cloud

(Click the book to order)

 

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Blogs 4 Borders! 09/29/08

I missed this on Monday. Hopefully I will remember next week….

Our weekly vlog/podcast on illegal immigration and border security. In this weeks edition…

Vigilance Dispatch: Everyone is talking about the massive bailouts. How has illegal immigration fed into the financial crisis that Washington plans to fix using our taxpayer dollars?

100% Preventable! Americans continue to pay the bloody price for open borders, when will the madness end?

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A very interesting video on our Nation’s banking system

This video, made by the Ludwig Von Mises Institute, makes the case of why the United States of America should go to a 100% gold standard.

I highly recommend that everyone watch this video.

Also, I recommend everyone go to my bookstore and check out the section on the gold standard.

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Blogs 4 Borders for the week of 9/2208

Our weekly vlog/podcast on illegal immigration and border security. In this weeks edition…

You do the math: Lake County Illinois cuts murder rate in half utilizing 287(g) protocol.

Uncounted Beans: Kansas politicians on the other hand are quite happy to have illegal aliens killing their citizens.

100% Preventable! Americans continue to pay the bloody price for open borders, when will the madness end?

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Editorial: Sometimes acting like Michelle Malkin is a good thing

I sit here tonight, as a former “left of center” Blogger, amazed at what has become of the party, that I once used to just blindly vote for every year.  I fully understand what Ronald Reagan was referring to, when he quoted Al Smith in his 1964 speech called “Rendezvous with Destiny.”  It just seems to me that the Liberals in this country of ours, instead of listening to the other side of the political fence and possibly learning from them, are more interested in mocking them and living in their own altered state of reality. Conversely, I have been told that this is nothing new, Democrats have been doing this for years.

Earlier tonight, I was over looking around on a well-known liberal Blog called Crooks and Liars, which, for those of you who are not normally of the Blogging community is a rather humorous reference to former President Richard M. Nixon’s statement of, “I am not a crook.” John Amato, A liberal from California, runs that rather interesting Blog.  Earlier tonight, John made a rather flippant comment that burned me to my core, and as a result, I felt the need to write about it, and the person, of whom he was referring.

John Amato was reporting on a Conservative Radio host from Alaska, who rather idiotically, made some rather nasty comments about some women holding a Anti-Sarah Palin rally in Alaska, and also about him giving their personal cell phone numbers out, whereby causing some of them to receive threats.  The host was suspended a week, without pay, which I feel was ample punishment.  To be fair to the Host, he was not aware that the numbers given out were personal cell phone numbers.

It was not the reporting of the incident that annoyed me to my core, it was the rather offhanded, mean spirited comment that was attached to the reporting of that story, that warranted this Editorial.  The comment that sent me over the rails, the comment, that I feel, was a shot over the bow of a rather highly intelligent woman, who I feel is unique spokesperson for American Conservative values in this Country.

“Acting like Michelle Malkin does have some consequences after all.”

That, Mr. Amato, is over the line.  I will explain why. However, I do not expect you, being locked into your bastardly Liberal mindset, to understand why I feel so damned strongly about this. Nevertheless, I will try to make your rather simple liberal mind understand the questions I am about to ask you.  I realize it might be a crab shoot with you, but I am in need of a challenge this evening and you are the target of interest.

  1. Do you believe that Michelle Malkin’s due diligence in reporting on the war on terror is a hateful thing?  I would expect so, seeing most of you liberals believe that we should try to talk to people who want to see this Nation and everything it stands for destroyed.
  2. I suppose that you believe that Michelle Malkin’s reporting of the vandalism that happened to the Vietnam vets war memorial in Washington D.C. is a hateful thing as well?  This would not surprise me.  Seeing it is you liberals, who hate our military, to the point of wanting America to lose a war and return home in disgrace.  Vietnam proved that sir.
  3. I suppose you would disapprove of Michelle Malkin’s resolve to “Lan Astaslem” which is Arabic for “I will not submit/surrender?”  This is a pledge that we as Americans will not submit or surrender to Islamic extremists who want to strike fear into the American people and ruin our livelihoods, something that I also believe in, to my very core.  I say this because it is you and your Liberal friends wish to appease those who want to destroy this Nation.

Yes, Michelle Malkin and I do have our differences.  Her brand of Conservatism is a bit different from mine.  I do not agree with every thing that she writes.  I am not a “Malkin-bot,” a funny term that I gave to some of her supporters, who tend to be, what I and Andrew P. Napolitano like to call sheep. However, that is about where the differences end.  When it comes to matters of National Defense and Defending our Military against those who would like to see it destroyed, including brain-dead liberals like you, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid.  I am, in fact, in agreement with her on these issues.

In closing, let me simply say this.  The Democrats talk about change.  Well, this year is going to be a major change for me as well.  For the first time, since I have legally eligible to vote, I will be not voting for a Democrat.  This is because the party that I used to just blindly vote for, in every election has totally drifted beyond the point that I feel to be acceptable in American politics.  I am sorry, but I cannot and will not vote for a Party’s candidate, whose politics resemble that of Karl Marx or that of the Nazi Party.  Furthermore, I will not vote for a candidate whose party abdicated its core principles in the Primary and at the convention, just so they could hurry up and get their nominee.

This is to say nothing of the communist socialist agenda,  the wholesale slaughter of innocent babies, the outright attack of the Judeo-Christian Faith, The Promotion and advocating of the Atheistic movement and the furtherance of the Homosexual agenda, the promoting of Identity Politics within the African-American community, in response to a perceived and mostly falsely assumed attack on the Negro Race.

All of these things are why this Blogger will be voting differently on November 4, 2008.

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Blogs 4 Borders! 09/15/08

It’s time for the weekly Blogs 4 Borders VidCast!

Our weekly vlog — podcast on illegal immigration and border security issues. In this weeks edition…

Taxpayer funded Latino only healthcare? We take a look.

Bi-partisan? Is illegal immigration the one true bi-partisan issue?

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Remember folks, these are the one’s that Juan McSame calls “God’s Children”. Remember that, come November and Vote for someone who will really do something.

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Stupid Local Story of the day: Crowd prays to heal Detroit's economy

Via The Detroit News:

Nearly 1,000 believers of all faiths descended on Hart Plaza Sunday to pray for healing and economic prosperity for the city of Detroit and the region.

Organizers from Warren’s Renaissance Unity mega-church titled the event “I lift Detroit in Prayer,” and distributed bright yellow bumper stickers with that message. The interfaith ceremony attracted members of the Jewish, Islamic, Christian and other faiths, as well as a mix of Detroiters and suburbanites.

“I am focusing on the economy of the Metro Detroit area,” said Jaime Nix, 58, of Warren. “We’re all in this together.”

The crowd sang “Amazing Grace” and many lifted their hands in prayer. Later, they were invited to scrawl prayers or positive affirmations in 48 journals positioned around the event.

At a time when the sign on the plaza’s kiosk still reads “Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick Welcomes You to Detroit,” many said they were there to pray for healing in the wake of the scandals that prompted the resignation of the former mayor.

“Detroit needs prayers, the way it’s been lately,” said Shannon Carrier, 37, of Roseville. “It’s been the mayor, the economy, unemployment … the list just goes on and on.”

Nancy Salder, 69, of St. Clair Shores, wrote a message of hope in one of the bright yellow books.

“I wrote ‘Thank you God for the transformation that’s already going on,'” Salder said. “We already have a new mayor. This is going to open up all the energy, and get Detroit back.”

While they’re praying, they ought to be praying for all those corrupt Democrats that brought all the troubles on the City of Detroit. Of course, the most corrupt one, Coleman A. Young, is already in hell. So, no amount of praying will help him.

While they are at it, pray for the corrupt unions that broke the Auto industry with their insane greed and collective bargaining to the point to breaking the Auto Companies and keeping them from turning profits.

Idiotic Liberals, you just have to love them, or you’d go crazy!

Our local economy is broken, let’s cry to the Gods! 😆 🙄

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Muslims Desecrate and Urinate in Jerusalem Holy Site

(H/T to WorldNetDaily)

The Story Via Israel National News:

Video:

Quote:

The Cave of the Patriarchs is the tomb of the biblical founders of the Jewish faith, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and their wives, Sarah, Rivka, and Leah.

The desecration occurred on one of the 10 days during the year that the holy site is open only to Muslims and is closed to Jews. The same arrangement also is accorded to Jews on 10 holy Jewish days.

Uri Karzen, a Hevron resident, reported that a Kohen, who recites the priestly blessings during the Sabbath morning service, told him he smelled urine next to the Holy Ark containing Torah scrolls. Karzen and other worshippers moved the table, where the Torah scrolls are placed during the reciting of the portion of the week, in order to avoid the foul smell.

This sort of thing is totally disgusting. It is also a reason why I have zero use for Muslims and their crazy Satanic Religion. As it says in that Video report, if the Jews had done this to Muslims, it would be all over the Liberal News, but because it is Muslims doing it to Jews, nobody cares. In fact, according the video, the local police even doubted that it even happened. What idiotic nonsense! Conservatives and Christians should be lighting up the media phones and demanding that they report this.

I must wonder, would B. Hussein Obama approve of something this repulsive? He’d most likely want to give those Muslims a medal.

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Double standards in Politics

It isn’t every day that I agree with stuff that is written in my hometown paper. However, this particular article is an notable exception.

Stephen Henderson in the Detroit Free Press writes:

What if Palin were a black woman governor from, say, Illinois, who had been added to the Democratic ticket? What if her 17-year-old daughter had been impregnated by an 18-year-old, basketball-playing black kid from Chicago with no college plans or discernable means of income?

Bet the house that we’d have seen a number of insulting and demeaning stereotypes invoked — by some of the same folks praising the Palins’ handling of the situation — over and over again.

How many times would we have heard about the evils of the “rap culture,” its focus on promiscuity, and its influence on young people?

How many times would we have heard the term “baby daddy” used as a pejorative — rather than as a hip term in the celebrity press — against the father? (In June, Fox News even referred to Barack Obama’s wife, Michelle, as his “baby mama.”)

How many times would we have been lectured about the rampant problem of teenage sex among African Americans, and how teaching kids about birth control, rather than preaching abstinence-only, just doesn’t work?

In short, how many times would this situation have been used to reinforce criticisms that African Americans endure — about rampant social ills, the collapse of the traditional family unit, a culture that supposedly doesn’t value stability — all the time?

Maybe those criticisms have some merit; but then why aren’t they being leveled as strongly against the Palins?

I hate to admit this, but he’s absolutely right. Because if it were Barack Obama’s daughters who were pregnant at age 17, the conservative press would be having a field day with them. It just seems to me that there is a large double standard, when it comes to Conservative women as opposed to Liberal women in the press in the blogging world and in the media in general.

Another example would be, what if it were Hillary Clinton’s daughter Chelsea, and she was 17 years old and turned up pregnant? You can be absolutely sure, that the Conservative media and Bloggers would be having a field day with her.

Steven goes on to write:

This is what I call the persistent, tacit bigotry of double standards. It’s not an overt racism, like job or housing discrimination. It simply plays out in stark differences in the way Americans see things and react to them.

It’s not unrelated to the bizarre celebration of the idea that the Palins are white trash — a term I caught several conservative commentators using endearingly during the Republican convention. It’s meant harmlessly, as a way of saying the Palins share important cultural touchstones and life challenges with an awful lot of other Americans.

But you’d never see or hear such flattering references to a black candidate being “ghetto.”

The substantive difference between white trash and being ghetto is probably negligible, but the perceived difference is huge, and I say that has got almost everything to do with race. Black culture is seen as besotten with damaging, dangerous and undesirable problems, so much so that any association with it can pose a threat to a black candidate. (Remember the flap over the Obamas’ fist bump after one of the big primary wins?)

But set the same problems in the context of a white family, and they can be excused away, or even celebrated as paragons of American culture. Sarah Palin’s daughter and her fiance are being hailed as moral heroes because of the way they’ve handled their situation; black kids would be condemned and held up as a teachable example for just being in that situation in the first place.

Ugly as it is, that’s an indelible part of American culture, and however this campaign ends, I doubt we’ll leave it behind anytime soon.

I’ll tell you, I’ve never much agreed with anything that’s published in the Detroit Free Press, seeing that this is a liberal area around here and all, but Stephen makes a very valid point. Why is it that we as Americans, especially we white Americans, when we see a young black woman pregnant at 17 years old, we want to call her a slut, but when we see a 17 year old white Conservative female get knocked up, we want to give her a free pass?

Furthermore, it just seems very funny to me, that when Hillary Clinton was in this race, there were a lot of people, Conservative and not so conservative, who were telling Hillary Clinton that she needed to get out of the race, that she was nothing more than a distraction, but now that Sarah palin is in the race, Oh, that’s just perfectly fine. It’s because the United States of America has a double standard, a double standard on liberal vs. conservative when it comes to women, a double standard when it comes to teen pregnancy in conservative white women as opposed to liberal black women.

I believe that Sarah Palin should be held to the same exact standards as any other person that’s running in politics. The very idea that Sarah Palin should be treated with kid gloves, because she is a woman is preposterous. Because feminists have fought long and hard for years and years, to get the same exact rights as men, and so if she wants to be in this race she should be treated with the same exact harshness as any other person male or female who decides to enter into the field of politics. Furthermore, Sarah Palin should be subjected to the same open criticism as John McCain and Barack Obama. If they happen to catch Sarah Palin in a lie, like the one she just recently told about selling a jet on e-bay, it should be exposed and she should be criticized just as harshly, as she would be, if she was a man. I am very sorry, but just because Sarah Palin has two breasts and a Vagina does not excuse her from criticism from the mainstream media.

But we all know that in this era of double standards, when it comes to women vs. men, that Sarah palin will be treated with kid gloves by the media and by people in her own party, who will go as far as to excuse some of her actions because she’s a girl.

Of course, I feel personally as a Fundamentalist Christian, that putting Sarah Palin on the ticket, is a classic example of the watering down of true Conservatism in America. Because quite frankly, 50 years ago, a woman on the Republican ticket either for President or Vice President would have been totally unheard of. It is been said that politics is a reflection of society is a whole, and likewise the Republican party is a reflection of Conservative society as a whole, and the reflection of the Evangelical Christian Conservative movement as a whole. I feel, as a former Evangelical turned Fundamentalist Christian, that putting Sarah Palin on this ticket is a reflection of the abject compromise that is overtaken that movement. Furthermore, the putting of a female on the Vice President ticket of the Republican Party, is a clear and open manifestation of Conservative society’s moving away from its strict adherence to Biblical truths. After all the Bible does say:

Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. (1 Timothy 2:11-14 KJV)

For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord. For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God. (1 Corinthians 11:8-12 KJV)

Now before anyonw bites my head off, and accuses me of being a sexist. Those words up there not my words, those words of the words of the Bible. The same Bible that Sarah Palin claims to believe in, it’s the same Bible that those Evangelical Christians claim to believe in as well. But yet, they totally ignore its words when they support a woman candidate for Vice President. It is truly a sad state of affairs.

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